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Choice: 2010 Canada Piedfort Set Or 2012 War Of 1812 Gold

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 Posted 05/01/2012  6:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to get some input which coin or coins would be a better investment and collectibility and why.

Either the 2010 Canada Piedfort set with gold maple leaf or 2012, the War of 1812 gold piece.
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 Posted 05/01/2012  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really have any advice on which is the better investment however, I watched an ebay auction Sunday night that ended at just south of $500 for the Piedfort set - issue price was $680. Someone took a bath on that one.

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 Posted 05/01/2012  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Toronto1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if Piedfort set < $500, it's better
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 Posted 05/01/2012  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't buy either of them for investment purposes; you probably have better odds at the casino. I would buy them both for collectibility; but I want to collect everything. Guess that doesn't help much does it? :-)
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 Posted 05/01/2012  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok people. That doesn't help much. I guess the piedfort set is unique because of the design. However, the War of 1812 has a little more gold and lower mintage.
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 Posted 05/01/2012  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

From a pure precious metal standpoint, the War of 1812 coin is always going to have a higher intrinsic value as it contains 1/4 ounce of gold vs. the 1/5 ounce in the 2010 Piedfort. I mention this because many modern Canadian collector coins start to trend toward their intrinsic precious metal value over time due to limited long-term collector demand.

The War of 1812 gold coin also has a lower mintage -- 2,000 vs. 3,000 for the gold Piedfort.

All in all, I like the potential of the War of 1812 coin vs. the gold Piedfort, but no one can make any guarantees of future values.

Do you prefer one or the other in terms of visual appeal? Which do you think you would enjoy looking at over and over again over time? If you have a definite answer to those questions, you might just have the answer to which you should purchase.

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 Posted 05/01/2012  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess for me it's all about uniqueness and collectibility. Rarity is an added bonus.
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 Posted 05/01/2012  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I guess for me it's all about uniqueness and collectibility. Rarity is an added bonus.


If that's the case, I would tend to go with the War of 1812 coin. Its attractive design is unique to it, it commemorates a significant historical event and, along with the 1812 silver dollars released earlier in the year, forms a nice little collection that can be enjoyed for years.

In contrast, while the piedforts do represent something different via their thicker planchets, their maple leaf design is not unique as it has been used before on other coins.

Hope that helps!

PS In case you missed it, here is a link to my post which has a "real" image of the 1812 coin: https://goccf.com/t/117307
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 Posted 05/01/2012  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverBug to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't forget the piedfort set comes with one ounce silver coin which worth around $100, so if you can get the set under 500, go for it. BTW the gold coin is 99999
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 Posted 05/01/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there,

Albern Coins sells the set for $650. I saw a set for $600. I forgot that the gold coin is 99999 which is something different since you only see that in a larger coin or a complete set. The 1 oz coin looks nice on it's own as well.
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 Posted 05/01/2012  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sixofclubs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too will chip in with a probably unhelpful comment;

I have the 2010 Piedfort set and I can honestly say it's my favourite coin/set. I keep going back to look at it again and again, so my only advice, if you're torn between the two, is to settle on the one that you think looks the nicest. That's what it comes down to. As others have said, NCLT's are generally not great investment vehicles. I received it as a gift, but I think the purchaser spent more than $600 on it, so if you can get it for around $500 I think it's a fantastic deal personally. But the 1812 is great too!

haha I know, unhelpful :)
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 Posted 05/02/2012  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obviously, the answer is...get the Piedfort set AND get the 2012/1812 gold. You're welcome

And now I'm really regretting not getting in on that set Sunday night lol
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 Posted 05/02/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sixofclubs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually the more I look at the 1812 coin (especially the picture that Commems posted), the more I want to take the plunge on that coin as well. I'm just so hesitant to spend money on gold right now, since I suspect it will be cheaper in 5 years. Tough call.

Just make sure you let us know what you decide, jsinger21!
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 Posted 05/02/2012  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dooby Rak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought two of these coins. I love the design and the size is just right. I have some 1/10oz coins and they are just to small. I also like that it commemorates a very important time in the development of Canada. We sometimes forget the war of 1812 and that the British forces and Canadians burned down the white house. On August 24, 1814, led by General Robert Ross, a British force occupied Washington, D.C. and set fire to many public buildings following the American defeat at the Battle of Bladensburg. The facilities of the U.S. government, including the White House and U.S. Capitol, were largely destroyed

I did not buy this coin as a short term investment. In a few years when gold goes down buy bullion, right now get this coin. You won't be buying from me for the price of gold five years from now. I suspect with only 2000 made you won't be buying any five years from now. They will all be stashed away in a collection.
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 Posted 05/02/2012  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually it wasn't called the White House back then. It became white from the repainting to cover up the smoke damage from the burning. My trivial trivia contribution :-).
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