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Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 02/10/2007 09:25 am Went to a locate junk dealer recently and purchased 18 avg to poor Morgans. One, a 1921, in horrible condition and was also covered in what seem like road tar. Acetone would not remove it. Since the coin was crude anyway, I gathered my wife's silver cleaner and a q-tip. It desolved it but what remained was this beautiful toning, very similar to what I have seen posted here. I took more silver polish to it and it finally cleaned up and is now a mirror. I wish I had left it now so as to be able to post it here. All I know is this has made me very suspicious of any toned coin if I can do it. Jim Report this Post to the Staff

OldDan Pillar of the Community United States 1203 Posts	Posted 02/10/2007 09:50 am Don't short change yourself Jim! A lot of the toned coins you see can be reproduced by just about anybody who wants to do this to a coin. I don't understand people wanting coins with this type of appearance anyway. Report this Post to the Staff
just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 02/11/2007 7:09 pm Put them on a window sill in the kitchen for a few months and they will begin to look normal if that is what you want. Of course the time depends on how much cooking is done in that room. Report this Post to the Staff
hadleydog Pillar of the Community Canada 1267 Posts	Posted 02/11/2007 7:57 pm Jim1953, I can't explain what I can't see. Any chance the toning was already present under the 'gunk'? What colors did it have, and in what order? I would love to have seen a picture of it. Hey Dan, lot's of folk can add toning to coins ( $6 a bottle on the 'bay) but the problem is the type of toning they add usually subtracts from the coins value. I've been collecting toners for quite a long time now and have yet to see an AT'd Morgan that I find attractive. The docs are good, but nowhere near as good as people make them out to be. Educating oneself on any area of our hobby is a must, so why wouldn't collecting toners be any different? Report this Post to the Staff
Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 02/11/2007 8:57 pm hadleydog, sorry for not stopping. Next time, if ever, I will wait and show the forum. Jim Report this Post to the Staff
gusp Valued Member United States 288 Posts	Posted 02/12/2007 12:03 am Holly smokes. Do not ever use a silver polish to clean a coin. Silver polishes contain abrasives and will totally ruin a coin. It hairline damages the natural surface and also ruins the lustre. That is not the kind of mirrors you want on any coin. Polishing seriously devalues a coin. Some silver dollars have VAM varieties that can be valuable even in lower grades. Their value is escalating as more people become advised of said. It is possible to use a coin dip to remove some residues. It is also possible that a toned monster can jump out after dipping. Not too likely though as most dipped coins will turn white or greyish. If you dip a coin and it is toned afterwords it is probably natural tonning. Usually a dip will remove natural and some unnatural tonning, so Beware. Many dipped coins can lose their lustre. Olive oil if used carefully can remove most residues. Just remember that it has a small amount of citric acid in it. Monitor your soaking coins. Pat dry them with a clean soft cotton cloth. Do not rub them. They should turn out OKAY. Do not clean unless you have to remove something from a coin that will harm the coin if not removed. Good Luck...Gusp Report this Post to the Staff
Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 02/12/2007 4:03 pm gusp, trust me, I am not one to ever mess with a coin. This thing is destined for melt, just nothing left. It is horribly worn and been attacked by an ax. I just wanted to see what was under the tar substance. It is now in my junk silver pile just waiting for prices to calm down. Jim Report this Post to the Staff
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