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55 DDOs And Questions

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OK, I have three 55DDOs. These are not the dramatic classic ones where you can see the doubling from accross the room. These guys are a lot less dramatic. The question is this. Are these the same dies as the dramatic DDOs only after they had been used to the point of the dobling fading? Or were there other dies that were doubled only not as badly?

The first coin is one I found, and the doubling is hard to see, but I did manage to get a pic that shows it somewhat. The other two are coins my dad found years ago.

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They look like what is called a poor mans doubled die to me. It is Die Deterioration. Are they from the famous DDO?, I don't think so. Are any of the markers from the famous DDO on any of these three?
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Hmmmm, I would need to find out what the markers are as I have NO clue. LOL
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These are "poor man's doubled dies" in the way that pyrite is "fool's gold". In other words, they're not doubled dies at all. There are other doubled dies for the date other than the famous one (#2 is actually pretty nice, but rare, and overshadowed by the king), but this isn't one of them.
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Oh holy crap! I did not realise the doubling was that extensive. So that answers that part. Next thign to come to mind is if that is due to die wear, why does it nt show up all over the place? All years mints etc. Or is it known from 55 because they are more closely looked at than any other year?
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Die Deterioration Doubling is common on many wheaties and it is quite prevalent on the 1950s issues. The 1955 is really the only one that gets attention due to unscrupulous collectors and dealers that try to sell them with trumped-up fake names like "poor man's double die". Part of it is simple ignorance of how a true doubled die is created but there is also a greed factor in play as well.
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All years mints etc. Or is it known from 55 because they are more closely looked at than any other year?


It does show up on other years..1953 being a prime example....the 1955 is singled out merely by people wanting to capitalize on others ignorance and greed.

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And don't forget that the "big one" is actually from
hub doubling in the first place. Not sure on the exact amount
of actual dies came from that one. Guessing not many if only one or two.
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The "big one" was struck from a single die pair. A specific die scratch on the reverse and a 10 degree rotation are authenticating features.
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Also, copper coins does list 8 different DDOs and 3 different DDRs.
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Thanks for all the info. I will keep them regardless as they are kind of neat. But change them to die wear descriptions.
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