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 Posted 05/10/2012  12:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I need to find out who put this picture up on coinsandcanada.com I would like to share an interesting find that has the same clips but is completely blank on both sides. Knowing who put this up would maybe allow me to have simliarity characteristics to get the coin graded for the same year.

http://www.numicanada.com/medias/pi..._clipped.jpg
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A coin dealer who usually helps out Louis Chevier during Lower Canada Auction's Nuphilex show had this coin. He sold it to me and the coin will be graded and certified sometime this summer.

What denomination is your coin? Is your planchet a Type I (unrimmed) or Type II planchet (rimmed). Note that the Blakesley effect can be imparted onto a blank planchet during the rimming stage. Does your blank, if a Type II, show this effect?
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 Posted 05/11/2012  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My coin came from a roll of 1982 constitution dollars I got at the Montreal show a few months ago. There is a picture in a previous post. https://goccf.com/t/115407
I got an expert to look at pictures of the coin and the roll was purchased from a reputable seller at nuphilex show so I am sure there was no tampering. I was hopeing for a thin planchet or reverse instead I found this. It has a rim but not serated. The only thing I noticed when I checked out the coins and canada site was the clips are almost Identical to that one. Take a look at the picture and tell me if you agree. I would like to get it certified as a blank 1982 dollar and this may help!
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 Posted 05/11/2012  08:48 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks like a nickel dollar blank, with clips. Is it magnetic and similar thickness to the other coins in the roll? If so, it is definitely certifiable - but no certification company will acknowledge the date of the coin (since they can't see one).

I would love to see this coin in hand, want to bring it to the next (fall) Nuphilex? I have a table there. A beauty like that deserves to be properly photographed and documented, so if your intent is to sell it, please let me know before you do so. I would estimate your coin to be worth 3 to 4 times what a normal nickel dollar blank planchet to be...
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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will definately bring it to the show in November. THe show in March was my first so I am excited for the next one. Only started collecting in December of last year. The coin might actually end up in a canadian coin news issue as well. I am waiting to see the next few editions.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anybody know if there was a particular problem with minting the 1982 comm'tive dollars? I bought a roll of them some years back and it had a blank dollar in it too. The rim is fine, though, not like JeyRey's.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You were lucky. A blank nickel dollar planchet is probably worth more than a 1982 Constitution dollar in MS-65...
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 Posted 05/14/2012  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Pennysaver! Nice find, can you post pics? I would love to compare. It was a large mintage so maybe they were turning them out too quickly to take notice. I also found a Struck Through Grease coin with almost have the beads missing on the obverse side. Would love to hear about more 1982 constituion finds!
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 Posted 05/14/2012  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JeyRey2000, have you seen this one?

https://goccf.com/t/76634&whichpage=11

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 Posted 05/14/2012  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, JeyRey. I'll see what I can do.
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Awesome strikethrough SPP! My strikethrough is not quite so impacted. Just the beads and the mapleleaf on the left of the queen is no very present. Maybe the mint guy was celebrating too much that night and had a go with the machine. Lots of errors out of that year.
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JeyRey2000, since the recent thread about Nuphilex was locked, I just wanted to follow up your post, and thank you profusely for selling me that cool Constitution dollar clipped blank at the show. It will form half of a very cool display set. If, or when, I publish this cool set of errors, you will be duly acknowledged. I absolutely love it...
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 Posted 11/05/2012  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JeyRey

Extremely nice of you to save it and sell to someone who will appreciate and cherish it. Kudos!!
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Better in the hands of someone who will enjoy it. Plus SPP you also helped me fill in a whole in my large cent collection with that gorgeous 1905! Looks great in the set thanks!
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The real question is.... did you buy another nickel dollar roll from that same dealer?
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For the benefit of the CCF board members, I bought this blank from JeyRey2000

https://goccf.com/t/115407

It was a perfect match to this error, which I bought last year (probably MS-63 grade):

http://www.numicanada.com/medias/pi..._clipped.jpg

I already submitted both coins to Sandy Campbell, who deals with PCGS for out-of-the ordinary requests. PCGS now does double slabs, so I am hoping the end result will look like this, giving me a fantastic display piece.

http://twitter.com/pcgscoin/statuse...195873267713
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