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Pillar of the Community
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Here's the thing - right now the #8146 is one year per page, each park has four slots in a row (P, D, S clad proof, S silver proof), and there are five rows on each page. There are some other quarter albums with six rows per page (24 slots), but there isn't room for five slots in a row, and adding a fifth row of four would leave you one slot short. I guess they could add a fifth column, but it's going to look goofy and cramped. It'll also be absent on the first two pages. And knowing the mint, they're going to go back on this decision in 3 years or something, so there will be this weird section in the middle of your ATB Quarter set where there are three S-mint quarters per park, while the rest of the set has two. There's also every indication that these will be "circulating quality" which is a different quality/finish than what comes in mint sets. Coins from mint sets are struck at higher pressure, with differently prepared dies and planchets, and the dies are retired sooner. Even though they're not doing satin finish any more, mint set coins still look significantly different from those you'd get from bags or rolls. So collectors will either have to ignore the S-mint circulating quality quarters, or buy bags or rolls to fill the holes (and spend the rest? share with friends?) and they'll be a mis-match between their mint set P&D quarters. Or they'll have to get those from rolls/bags too. Or they'll have to get both, and have 35 different quarters for every year. Right now the mint is selling " America the Beautiful Quarters Circulating Coin Setâ„¢" and " America the Beautiful Quarters Uncirculated Coin Setâ„¢" for both 2010 and 2011. I believe these are two different versions of the coins, not just packaging! The "circulating" set is circulation quality (what you'd find in bags or rolls or at the bank), The "uncirculated" are "...struck on special presses using greater force than circulating coins, producing a sharp, intricately detailed image." Will people who already bought the "uncirculated" or "circulating" versions of these sets just be screwed when versions with "S" mint coins come out later this year? Will they only be available in rolls and bags?
Edited by CaptainFwiffo 05/22/2012 12:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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After reading the post on Coin Update, I wonder if these 2012-S circulating quality Quarters are in fact a one-year-only offering. Quote:Coin Update: "For the subsequent years, the Mint has not yet determined whether the production of circulating quality (S-mint) America the Beautiful Quarters will continue." They could be a "75th Anniv. of the S.F. Mint" product, much like the two-coin ASE set released next month.
Edited by DNA 05/22/2012 1:00 pm
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I DON'T like this. The S mint mark has been only for proof coins for 30 years and now that want to make a couple of non-proof coins to cash in on the "S Mint" brand? There is a reason my people like products from the San Francisco mint, it is because the only strike proof coins.
And then they are going to sell them in 100 coin bags and 40 coin rolls. Who wants 40 coins at a huge mark-up?
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Quote:A little late IMO. If your gonna do it, why not do it for all the ATB Quarters? This is problem Number 1. Similar mistake was made when the Statehood Quarters acquired satin finish midway through. Quote: This is gonna make my Dansco Album wrong/obsolete. This is problem Number 2. They have yet to recognize and account for the satin finish coins of 2005~2010. I do not see them updating the albums for this any time soon. Quote:They could be a "75th Anniv. of the S.F. Mint" product, much like the two-coin ASE set released next month. Let us hope this is the case. If not, in my opinion, this will last at most two years before ending in epic failure. I will not update my Dansco and I will happily ignore these like I did the satin finish. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I can see why collectors give up on the Mint with these capricious offerings that have no rhyme or reason to them. Next year there might even be West Point minted quarters for XXth anniversary of that facility, in proof format no less. I really hope the US Mint isn't going to way of the RCM and offering 300+ different products per year, making it difficult to distinguish the good stuff from the bad. Captain has the right idea: my 8146 (and future 8147) P&D slots have/will be filled from Mint sets, so these NCLT SF coins can be conveniently ignored for now since they have been excluded from the Mint sets.
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were the satin finish coins from 2005 to 2010 in the normal mint sets for those years, or were they issued as a seperate producr in seperate ogp?
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Quote: ...so these NCLT SF coins can be conveniently ignored for now since they have been excluded from the Mint sets. Oh no! You were not supposed to say that aloud!  Quote: were the satin finish coins from 2005 to 2010 in the normal mint sets for those years, or were they issued as a seperate producr in seperate ogp? They were used for the normal mint sets.
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Don't like this at all. Seems like they're creating a semi-rarity purely for the sake of creating a semi-rarity. I wish the U.S. Mint would stop the gimmicky baseball card-ization of its coins. The world mints have become a joke with their endless offerings of NCLT coins. It seems ridiculous when the number for intended-for-circulation offerings is far outweighed by the NLCT offerings. The U.S. Mint is on its way there. I think I'd be slightly less offended if they started doing this in 2010, so that there wasn't S-mint for some years and non-S mints for others. Just like the satin finish for State Quarters, but maybe a little less stupid. That being said, I'm a completist, so like a sucker I'll be buying these up.
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Pillar of the Community
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This is the one series I do not have in a Dansco. We got five (one for everyone in the family) Lighthouse albums. They are really nice albums. But no capability to add for S coins. They will just have to be in 2x2s. They are limiting the mintage to 1.4 million, which is relatively low compared to most modern releases, so it may sell out quickly. We are going to be in for a bag and a couple rolls.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the first release date is june 21 for el yunque... I'm definitely getting the feeling that this is a one year deal.
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Hondo, Quote: I'm definitely getting the feeling that this is a one year deal. Here's a quote from http://www.coinworld.com/articles/s...ion-qualit/:Quote:[Director of the U.S. Mint's Office of Public Affairs, Tom] Jurkowsky said if numismatic sales of the 2012-S America the Beautiful Quarter dollars prove successful, U.S. Mint officials might consider offering additional quarter dollars struck at the San Francisco facility. Of course they'll be successful, they'll sell out in a day with a mintage of only 1.4 million when sold by rolls and bags.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Seems like they're creating a semi-rarity purely for the sake of creating a semi-rarity. Which is something they used to go out of their way to avoid. Even to the point of publicly saying they wanted to make sure they didn't create a rarity. Now they have discovered they can make money by creating rarities and selling them themselves so now rarities are a good idea.
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Pillar of the Community
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You may be right... you are probably right... I just have a feeling it will be the one year. No rhyme or reason.
Either way, I will buy them and hope they stop and dont make it an every year thing. Maybe my hunch is more blind hope than anything.
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I just realized... There are plenty of extra unlabeled holes at the end of the ATB Dansco albums. I might be getting these after all. 
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