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New Member
Canada
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Hi all,
I am fairly new to collecting and I had a question regarding small cent varieties.
I know that there are numerous varieties out there, with some more commonly known/collected and others more obscure.
I know to look at places like Charlton Catalogue, CoinsandCanada.com etc to get info on varieties, but it seems that they just don't end. There will be the main varieties listed on CoinsandCanada like 1947 Pointed, 1947 Blunt, etc. but then if you click on each year you'll see any number of further varieties, errors and so forth.
The dilemma I face is that there are so many varieties out there that I don't know about, and it seems overwhelming to try to know/look for all of them. I don't want to be going through a huge pile of pennies and then looking up each year and analyzing each penny for every minute variety. Having said that, I also don't want to just deposit away pennies that could potentially contain good varieties.
Does anyone have any guidance on how I can go about approaching this? I would definitely look for the main varieties as listed on the listings on CoinsandCanada (like blunt vs pointed, SF vs NSF) but then with the other varieties (extra spine, die cracks, rotations, etc) are there some main ones (either valuable or more frequently collected) that are much more worthwhile to look for?
I know that the depth in which people search for varieties will vary so people will have differing opinions, but I'm just hoping for some general guidance to get myself started and finding a good compromise between spending way too long and letting good varieties slip out of my hands.
Ideally, I would like to try to go beyond the most major varieties, but how far deep into the other varieties I want to go, I am not sure.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I hope you get some good answers as I'd like to know too.
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Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
I roll search U.S. cents for errors and varieties. What I recommend is that you first learn what a "normal" coin should look like for any given year and MM, they don't change them very often. Then when you come across a coin that doesn't just look right you will notice it right off and then you can take a closer look at what you might have. That's what I do. I hope this makes sense to you. Good luck with your hunting. John1 
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Moderator
 Canada
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If you can find one, a copy of Hans Zoell variety catalogues are a fantastic place to start.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1161 Posts |
When looking at the CoinsandCanada web site...the link to the pictures that they have in the listing for the year you have chosen are more or less very minor and usually not as collected varieties/errors. A lot of what the pictures show are die cracks, Machine Doubling, minor die clashes and so forth. If you want to look for the variety/errors shown on the additional pictures...please do. I guess what you really need to do is to figure out exactly what you want to collect. This will help you to determine how in depth you will need to look at each individual coin to realize the maximum returns in what you want to collect. Every collector has to make this determination for themselves. When I started...I was collecting everything that I found interesting to me. I quickly learned that collecting everything I found interesting was very time consuming and getting a bit out of hand. Over the years I have learned refine my collecting to certain areas of varieties and errors. I recommend you do some reading on different websites to learn what you can about what you will be collecting. There are so many different minor errors around that carry little to no premium for a coin. Asking questions on a coin of interest to you is also a great way to learn. Just make sure you have a decent picture to post with your questions and ask your questions in a clear and straight forward manner. With those two things included in your posts you will usually receive great advice and opinions from several members here that will hopefully answer your questions. Like the saying goes..."A picture is worth 1000 words.", but we still need the words in the form of a question to give you an educated answer.  I recommend you also do as much reading on here and you will soon find that many of your questions have already been answered. In the top left corner of the web page is a box called "Search Coin Community"...using this will often help you find an answer that may have already been discussed here before. A few great websites to read are: http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins-prices.php - Most likely the most important Canada Coin Reference site you will use. http://coppercoins.com/advsearch.php - US Penny (cent) variety/error web site. A must use if you want to collect US Cents. Just enter your date in the "From:" field and choose your mint and take a look. http://www.eurocoins.co.uk/ - Identify the Euro coins you may find on your CRH journey http://canadiancounterfeits.numisso...?/category/2 - A good source to help you identify Canadian Counterfeit coins. http://varietynickels.com/pages/jef...n-nickel.php - Good Jefferson nickel reference site http://www.lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html - Excellent resource site for Lincoln Cents...Be sure to read how to Identify the 1998, 99 & 2000 Wide AM and the 1992 Close AM Lincoln Cents. http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...BeadsVar.htm - How to Identify the Rare 1965 Canadian Nickel bead varieties by Ken Potter http://www.doubleddie.com/203990.html - A must use for US coin errors and varieties http://www.errorvariety.com/ - error and varieties There are other sites that are useful and I'm sure others may chime in with any I might have omitted. I hope this info helps and be sure to ask questions when needed. 
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Valued Member
Canada
316 Posts |
I've been collecting for about9 months now, I was thinking the same thing as you. like John1 said look for the ''main''varieties first and when you get used to it you'll notice the extra spine, doubling date and die cracks or spots. At least that what I did. just have fun, don't put pressure on yourself.
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Valued Member
Canada
306 Posts |
Hello Here is on Numicanada a new book WEB for ERRORS since five day now. The errors are class "Minor or Majors. Just look at, but it is in french. Good read. http://www.numicanada.com/livre.php
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Valued Member
Canada
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Hi mokpie. I am in a similar situation. I have been collecting for awhile, but not too seriously. I only started to get more serious about 2 years ago, and just in the last few months I have really started to focus on Canadian small cents through coin roll hunting.
I now have worked out my own little system that I'm sure will be refined further.
I do a first pass through the coin rolls just looking for "older" coins. I focus on 1981 or earlier and for the 60's or earlier I keep everything which has a legible date no matter how poor the condition.
My second pass is to split the remaining pennies into three piles: 1: 1996 or earlier (copper) 2: 1997 or later except... 3: 2006
I then focus on the 2006 pennies to look for the various main varieties with mint mark/magnetic properties.
Currently, I have about 35000 pennies sitting in yogurt containers that need to go through that second pass... So it will be a while until I'm finished there, particularly since I plan on going through $1000 in total CRH'ing first.
my third pass will be to look for any significant varieties or major errors on reasonably high quality coins in the non-coppers (eg die rotations, die clashes, etc.) and then to re-roll them. I'll return them to a bank at this point.
Eventually I will do a similar comprehensive search on the coppers. This is about 1/4 of the pennies based on what I have seen so far. However, I will probably move on to other parts of my collection before I finish with the pennies completely.
One interesting side effect of CRH'ing Canadian pennies is that I have found a lot of good American wheat cents so imstarting a bit of a collection there too...
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Valued Member
Canada
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There is no easy answer to your question. My penny book goes from 1937 to date and has over 700 pennies for that 75 year period without a duplicate - l have 46 different 1964s for example. So really collect what you want to and dont let yourself feel too overwhelmed, just have fun
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
610 Posts |
 yes,don't dive too deep(for now). I did,in the beginning and became so overwhelmed,I quit the hobby for quite a while.  Have fun  enjoy your hobby  and most of all RELAX 
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