Elizabeth II Trial Strikes? In Lead.

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atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 1:00 pm Hello, I picked up these two pieces recently. Alot of research turned up nothing for me. Does anyone have any info on them they would like to share? Are they actual trial strikes? Which coin or medal are they of etc? Many thanks in advance...Here are a couple pics..Best, Anthony Report this Post to the Staff

atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 1:03 pm Having trouble uploading pics... Report this Post to the Staff
bobby131313 Forum Dad United States 24177 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 1:11 pm Have a look here: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...g_images.asp Shop CCF Members on eBay. Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 1:38 pm Thanks! Edited by atorra44 05/29/2012 1:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 1:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16861 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 6:22 pm Hello and welcome. They certainly look like lead die pulls, or "trial strikes", but they're not of any British or Commonwealth coin I'm familiar with. I doubt the portrait is official, or intended for use on coinage - it's a curious mixture of design elements from the Gillick and Machin portraits. I'd assume it was for a medal of some kind, presumably 1960s-1970s. I'll check my British medal catalogue to see if there's a match there, but it's entirely possible the medal it was intended for was never struck. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/29/2012 9:23 pm Thanks for the info Sap!.....The engravers initials under the portrait are D.R.G...?....AND THANKS FOR THE WELCOME....GREAT PLACE! Edited by atorra44 05/29/2012 9:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16861 Posts	Posted 05/30/2012 03:58 am OK, the initials helped find it. It's from the dies used to make these unofficial pattern 4 shillings by David R Golder. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/30/2012 08:09 am Awesome, thanks!.....So these were 1953 issue? As I looked and found some that say 1953 issue, and others were struck in 2001 as a 1953 retro set. Same coins? Edited by atorra44 05/30/2012 08:28 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16861 Posts	Posted 05/30/2012 09:36 am I don't know. Being unofficial coins, I suppose there's nothing to stop whoever made them from making as many as they pleased. I think it would also be impossible to determine a date of issue of your lead pulls, either - they could have been made anytime after 1953. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 05/30/2012 10:29 am Thanks again, and thanks for making my first post a pleasent one! Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1324 Posts	Posted 05/30/2012 4:19 pm Donald R Golder is still alive and well designing medals... http://www.queensjubileecoins.com/c...y-background As for date those unofficial four shillings were made around the late 1990's. Report this Post to the Staff
atorra44 New Member United States 8 Posts	Posted 06/04/2012 1:07 pm Thanks Andy, is there a decent collectors market for these? Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1324 Posts	Posted 06/05/2012 07:01 am dunno - they don't turn up all that often - had they been official Royal Mint then there would be! There were some lead pulls from Donald R Golder's "what if" Euro sets recently on ebay - sold about £15 or so. Report this Post to the Staff
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