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How Would You Classify This 1943 Cent?

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I found this 1943 US Cent while roll hunting here in Canada. I was wondering if this would be classified as a die crack or maybe a retained break. Looking for opinions.

Also...would the anomaly on the "T" in "CENT" be the start of a crack or maybe a chip or gouge?

Thank you for all input...Now on with the show.

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 Posted 06/05/2012  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdavis18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would that technically be a Retained Cud?
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The beginning of the end of a steel whacking die.
Some cracks and a few chips. No Cud.
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I thought about that at first but I could not see any vertical displacement or horizontal offset. Of course...I'm still learning as I go and maybe one of the pros can give their diagnostic of the coin.
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 Posted 06/05/2012  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Some cracks and a few chips. No Cud.


So just another die crack. Not a die break? And a chip for the section on the "T"?
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Just some die cracks in a late stage die, no premium.
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Thank you for the input. I still like it as it is one of the best cracks I have found on a Wheat cent so far. I will keep it and enjoy it as usual. I love the wheat cents.
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Not sure you're looking for 'opinions' - I would rather believe you are just looking for a correct answer.

Anyway, this is a die crack - sometimes called a rim-to-rim die crack. It does not become a Retained Cud until you can tell the piece is broken off the die. This would be movement of the piece that would show as a wide crack with a sunken bit or something else that would show for sure that the piece was either not attached or had moved significantly. All that is evident here is that the die is cracked. Common.
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Thank you for the reply. I'm always looking for the correct answer. I ask for opinions as I see this forum as a open discussion and learning experience for me and other members. Any opinion offered...even if it is not correct is appreciated. When the correct answer is given...I see it as a learning experience not only for me, but anyone else who might have offered a different opinion to the question. I love the give and take aspect.

Thank you to all who regularly answer the question presented on this forum. It has been and will continue to be a great learning resource for many members...myself included.
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