I cant really tell from the pictures what those lines on the obverse of the 87S are, looks like scratches from cleaning or something. But I cant really tell.
For a grade for the 87S, not counting whatever those marks are, Id say EF 45
On the 1872, id say VF 30 with a nice full liberty that might make it a 35
For a grade for the 87S, not counting whatever those marks are, Id say EF 45
On the 1872, id say VF 30 with a nice full liberty that might make it a 35























