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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I stumbled upon this...dodgy item...Nancy I think we might be able to add this person into the lovely list. It looks like the first dodgy numismatic item they've sold; the desciption's below. & someone has put a bid on the $200 opening price.http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Polymer-...em58945a4e5fQuote:
Australian $20.00 Polymer Fault/Error Banknote
Blue over ink, honeycomb design completely over one side of note, see picture 3 for best close up
This note was taken to the bank to confirm it was legal tender, pretty rare apparently
Macfarlane & Henry, 2005 issue
Serial Number - AC 05055322
Note is circulated, Good condition, see pictures above of the actual note What do you think? I smell a snake. If I was a crook I'd be rich.
Edited by goatieman23
06/15/2012 10:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Fake probably. I'm not sure where in the printing process that could happen, and the ink looks like it has run in places.
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Valued Member
Australia
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I'm calling dodgy....
Of course, the bank would say that - you can tender a note with scribble on it to the bank and they'll honour it, as long as it was a legit issue to begin with, so their opinion doesn't give the note any cred.
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Valued Member
Australia
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I'm going with dodgy. the stamp clearly stops at the edge of the right eye.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I'm undecided,on one hand I'm thinking legit as if you look very closely at some of the normal print it actually appears to be over the top of the honey cone print in question, eg ; the thin black lines on John Flynn's collar.
But I also have something saying nah it carp as no australian note has that honey print on them but NPA don't only print australian notes do they, so maybe we need to look into what notes NPA print for about 80 odd other countries & if any of them have this honey cone print.
Anyway one side of my brain says someone run it through a printer with the honey cone print & the other side of my brain is saying the some of the finer detail of the note looks to be over the top of the honey cone print.
Personally I would'nt buy it unless a note expert had authenticated it in any case.
Edited by appleangel07
06/16/2012 01:27 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmm...there's numerous spots where there is none of the honeycomb ink or very light ink. There are a couple spots where the ink hasn't taken; - To the bottom left on the bald spots near on/around the serial
- The honeycomb isn't straight...?
- The whole section above (through to the top of the note) the NN in JOHN FLYNN
Appleangel; interesting mention to 80 other countries that NPA print for, but I think no note would have a honeycomb print through the entire length of a note. Countries who go polymer tend to use windows on their notes (take benefit of the security features that are offered), if not, I'm sure they'd have some form of holographic section through the notes (like the Euro). I put down dodgy, but the seller could have found it in circulation. There's plenty of notes in circulation that have writing, stamps & etc on them. The poor person who brought it is soon to be $185 out of pocket...eBidiots. |
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Formerly nancyc
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The poor person who brought it is soon to be $185 out of pocket...eBidiots.  I think the note is dodgy! Seller is fairly new to ebay, and has no other current listings, but has sold some numismatic items, so for now. I might be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Dodgy item but not certain that it's a dodgy seller. life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Australia
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UPDATE: Quote:
Dear goatieman23,
I disagree with you for two reasons - The bank would have suggested that surely, & I imagine that a common stamp pad would contain ink that would smudge on polymer banknotes.
- chez.40 In goatiemans opinion: Banks know sweet F.A, they know how to count! I know how to count! Everyone on this forum knows how to count...at least I think everyone does...  A common stamp pad would not smudge if the stamp ink residue is lifted perfectly straight upwards (with a tissue or something absorbent) from a nearly dry ink press. Everyone, I challenge you to try the smudge test on a note at home (preferably not one from the collection).  |
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Australia
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Well, the buyer was happy with his purchase, I guess that it what counts in the end. Unless inspecting the note in real life (I'm sure the ink runs when pressure applied) , it's really hard to make a 100% decision that it's dodgy... therefore I am going with 99.99%.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I say it is a genuine note.
I have seen that pattern before but can't recall where. Any one else know it? Is it a pattern used on wrappers? Could come from same printing plant.
Jeff
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Australia
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I'm saying dodgy, I work as a printer, these notes are printed uv so they are dry before they hit the delivery, you would not get the smudges like what's seen in the blue, some kind of over print to me, like a photocopier!
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I wouldn't spend 10 x face one a $20...a loss of $180. Doesn't make sense to me.
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