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Need Help Identifying Chinese Coin...please

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I bought a coin lot off of ebay for $1.36 plus $1.95 for shipping. It was a mix of mostly common world coins but had some WWII Japanese military currency that my grandpa got a kick out of. This coin was in the lot. It has a similar "ting" to silver when flipped. I was able to find that it is from China's Hupeh province from my standard catalog, but I cannot find the year. I do not do well with identifying the chinese symbols. Could someone please lend me some assistance.

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thanks in advance for the help
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If it was real it would be silver, but this fake is so easy to spot that the translation don't match up with the reverse.
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Thanks for the input Macmercury. Being quite new to coin collecting, I like learning how/why something is a fake. Could you give me a brief description on how it was easy to spot? When looking at the Chinese symbols on the top row, I did notice that the third one in (the one that sort of resembles a vase) was no where to be found in the standard catalog of world coins. Is this how you spotted it so easy? I am glad that the lot was only a few bucks.
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You are dealing with Chinese coins - lots of counterfeits. The obverse states that it's struck in Jiangxi Province (Jiangxi coins are quite difficult to find) but on the reverse, it says it's from Hupeh Province.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangxi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubei

There may be mules known for copper coins but NOT for silver coins.
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I really do appreciate the information. I like to educate myself for I do not make mistakes again. In this case, I did not get to see the coins close up (just part of a cheap lot on ebay. but in the future, I do not want to make this mistake again. Do not regret the past but learn from it so you do not do it again in the future is my motto.
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Here's one big tip when dealing with Chinese coins - never start off with crown or half dollar size when the deal seems too good to be true because chances are, you are much better off winning the lottery instead of getting a genuine coin. This is still a rather easy coin to tell. Some of the super counterfeits I've seen match the specific gravity test, weight, details etc - now that's hardcore.

If you want a rough idea of what genuine Chinese coins look like, check my site: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/china...province.htm

All coins are genuine except for one which is a rather impossible coin to find. Has the list of Chinese provinces as well.


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Yeah, in China there are millions of cheap coins, if it's cheap and like this it is going to be a fake.
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thanks guys
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The emperor's name is Guangxu. Wikipedia says "His reign lasted from 1875 to 1908, but in practice he ruled...only from 1889 to 1898."
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just to give everyone an update, I contacted the seller. he issued me a refund on my money and told me to keep the coins. he said that he had bought them from an estate sale in south carolina where he was assured that they were genuine. he paid $55 (according to him) for the coin lot. I have the other coins as well. I had them looked at out of the dozen coins.... 3 fakes, one that is just a "token", one military issue paper currency from WWII Japan (real), 6 common chinese coins, 1 silver coin from austraila. Even though most of the coins were junk, I still have one small piece of silver for my trouble and hassle.
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