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First Coin Photo From New Camera

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Got my new Sony H2 today and here's the first shot on auto setting. I'll play with lighting and manual settings this weekend when I have more time and I'll update with some samples. In the meantime, any critiquing is welcome.

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My eyes must be playing tricks on me with the white background. The picture looks very nice, although a bit bright. The funny thing to my eye is that the coin looks like a computer image, and not a picture per say. Very weird.....I just wish my camera would get something that detailed on "auto"!

Regardless, it shows quite a bit of detail, but there is some shadowing. Great depth IMO though because of this, especially in the neck.

I'm sure some of the experts, hmm hmmm Superdave, will have some suggestions for you. Some things catch their eye that I am still a novice at.
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Yep...I thought the same thing since I never had a camera this good. The reason why it looks odd is the lighting. The light source is coming from the top of the coin and it really needs to come from the sides. That's probably why the luster of the coin isn't showing so it looks funky.
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I liked it.

A little dark beneath the chin, but the contact marks etc are well detailed.

I guess the reason the coin look like computer image is because it is cropped, we can't see out of the coin.

Am I correct Ken? If I am, can I ask which software you use to crop circular?

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I think the H2 is a great camera. Your picture is nice. I still couldn't get good lighting. I'm sure SuperDave will have some advice.
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RenaL, You are correct. I just picked up a cheap editing package called Photo Explosion from staples but instead of cropping they call it trimming (same thing to me). I specifically wanted circular cropping (or trimming) for some special projects so I'm happy with it.
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I wonder if you can make the circular trimming a touch bigger than the coin, and then fill it with black. It seems on most photos I have seen here, the black background really enhances the image to the human eye. Just a thought.....
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I think you're going to have fun shooting coins with this camera, if that's the first try.

The generally-accepted method (meaning, that's how the camera snobs do it) of shooting coins is straight-on, usually directly down at the coin. This makes focus and adjustments much easier, as the depth-of-field required to shoot a tilted coin makes you to work with an aperture range that compromises lighting and exposure choices.

Straight-on, you can keep apertures relatively open (f5.0-ish), allowing you to achieve good results with less light and faster exposures. Less light means less likelihood of washing the coin out, and faster exposures mean generally better focus. Shooting a tilted coin requires apertures at or above 8.0, forcing you to lengthen exposure and use a lot more light.

Always shoot the best-quality (largest files) photos you can, Ken. And, as tights24 mentioned, generally the lighter the coin, the better it looks on a dark background.
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tights24, your absolutely right. In this type of setting a square cropping with black background works most effectively. The circular cropping I did is more effective for a different project I'm working on. Thanks for the input.

SuperDave, I've been reading the various threads to get tips and in two paragraphs you have me focused on a starting point instead of jumping all around, Whoa...talk about great advice out of the gate

Personally, I want the camera to create everything I want in an image and only use editing software for cropping, trimming or positioning. In other words the camera creates the image and not the software.
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quote:
Personally, I want the camera to create everything I want in an image and only use editing software for cropping, trimming or positioning. In other words the camera creates the image and not the software.


That being the case, then, the first thing you need to become completely comfortable with is white balance. Here's a start:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tu...-balance.htm

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Here'e the reverse with added lighting, ISO 80, and f8.0. SuperDave is so right...this is gonna take a lot of practice as I'm seeing different results for different coin finishes.
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Oh well, practice, practice, practice
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I'm seeing different results for different coin finishes.


Yeah, that's another thing....the difference between a lustrous, BU Morgan and a circulated, EF one might be as much as 1/400@f8.0 and 1/100@f3.5 with the same lighting.

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