Questions On Authenticity Of The ANA Laser Labels

with above.

also, this is of topic but you don't happen to be skin from the yogscast do you?

What coins are they?

What matters is the actual pattern on the sticker, not the shape of the sticker border or the centering of the image.

I am positive it is certainly possible the images on the sticker could be off center depending on the cutting process of the labels (like if they were being fed through too fast). I don't see anything wrong with the edges other than some superficial chipping which could just be the sticker getting old and suffering wear. And realize that if a counterfeiter is gonna have problems its not gonna be in centering the image or cutting it evenly (thats easy) ... its gonna be getting the design of the image correct.

Now just to put my money where my mouth is I went to check my older NGC slab which holds a completely genuine Barber dime. It too is significantly off center and looks exactly like these in the picture... the edges are not perfectly straight (they have a VERY slight arc, almost unnoticeable), if that's what you were saying. However the image detail matches yours, and yours match to each other. (I cant get a pic right now I can tomorrow if you must see it though)

And remember this isn't just about the fancy little sticker... a sticker is just one counterfeit prevention tool, take a look at the slab itself (if not also the coin lol). If its fake chances are you'd notice something after looking somewhat closely at it. Counterfeit slabs depend on you not thinking to check the slab itself so I'm betting you'd be able to see problems.

Thank you all so much for the explanation and insights! Especially to donkrx for your expertise!

I know that ppl told me that the the older version NGC hologram labels are of lower quality than the new version introduced in 2006(? I think). And I agree with most of your points.

Since you mentioned the importance of examination of the coin and slab, and I do have concerns on the sets I got. At first, AFAIK, the gold coated quality counterfeit are almost as good as the commercial strikes that US Mint issues - at least to my eyes. Secondly, on 2 of the slabs the NGC grade labels are peeled and bulging at the center, which I have not seen before - again to my limited knowledge. Thirdly, the dash sign in the barcode numbers is not slanted, rather just a straight '-'. But on the slab themselves, they do look ok - no apparent signs as mentioned on the NGC alert notice.

I will upload complete pictures of the slabs tonight.

Hello, the label is ture or fake? I got a coin with this kind of label too.

First these are not ANA holograms, they are NGC holograms.

The label and hologram type shown in the whole slab picture by sjin were used from July 2001 to July of 2003.

There are at least two possibly three different sizes of this hologram. NGC 7 and 8 used a large version of the hologram. When the front label reverted to the same as on NGC 7 it switched to a smaller size hologram. (When the slab book was published the slab shown as NGC 7 should have come between NGC 8 and 9. At that time I did not realize the difference between it and NGC 7.) The other possibility is that NGC 7 had a small hologram, NGC 8 and NGC 8.5 had a large holograms, and the the went back to the small hologram for NGC 9. I need to do some searching through some State Quarters and/or silver eagles and determine the exact order.

The holograms are printed in layers of plastic on a paper backing and then the paper is run through a die cut machine that cuts the film but not the paper. If the paper is not properly positioned the resulting holograms can be off-center, at an angle, or even running off the edge with part of the image missing. Nornally you would expect defective holograms to be rejected, but how bad does the defect have to be? And in some cases I would still expect the occasional error to slip through.