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I have no idea why people are so big on toning. For me and my humble opinion, I think toning ruins the beauty of the coin. Can anyone tell me why toned coins are valuable? Also does anyone share my opinion?
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I too sort of dislike toning on coins. I really prefer originality. However, you must remember that this is a hobby that is running out of many older coins. By that I mean this hobby is growing massively lately bu adding more nad more collectors. And there were only so many of some coins made. Not long ago several million coins minted sounded like to many. Today with way over that in collectors, other things get started to make up for lake of normal coins.
This is why today there are coin books being written all the time. Coin magazines all the time. More and more collector items being made by manufacturers such as Albums, Folders, flips, plastic rolls and on and on and on. Then arises the Toning collectors, error collectors, type set collectors. fake coin collectors and no one knows what is next.
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Some coins end up with an attractive tone and some end up with ugly toning ,and some have no toning at all.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and you buys what you likes.

Toning is a friend of mine. It can be used as a dignostic tool in the identification of fakes.
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I was never a fan of toned coins years ago but I have come to appreciate the beauty of some of them. Some toned coins look like a piece of art.


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I dont like toned coins except for silver coins because toning gives them an Antique look, which I really like.
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have no idea why people are so big on toning. For me and my humble opinion, I think toning ruins the beauty of the coin. Can anyone tell me why toned coins are valuable? Also does anyone share my opinion?


Some toning is unattractive and some coins are simply beautiful when toned. The right toning will command a premium because collectors with an eye for quality toning like them and the coins are harder to find.

For example, coins with rainbow target toning. With Lincoln cents, except of the 1970-S proof, nice rainbow toning is VERY hard to find.

These are ugly, eh?

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While some toning, especially some of the massive rainbow toning on Morgan dollars and Walker halves is incredibly attractive, I don't understand it warranting prices that are sometimes many multiples of the price of untoned examples of similar quality. I could see 20% to even as high as 50% mark ups for the best toned coins but to me, toning does not carry the same weight as quality. I can't imagine paying more for a toned MS65 than I would for an MS67 or MS68 Morgan.
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justcarl I salute you for that reply :)
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As for me I HATE rainbow toning. It makes the coin look useless to me, but that is my opinion. But I have to agree with you guys there are some nice toned coins. Like EgCollector said, silver coins. I found some amazing toned Morgans but they come to be very pricey.
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It used to be called tarnish, and certainly added nothing to the value of a silver coin.
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It makes you wonder how many of the rainbow toners are fakes and how many are real. I imagine the fakes outnumber the real, at leat the massively rainbow toned ones. I like a natural toning on a Morgan and especially on a copper coin.
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With older coins, toning is a sign of originality. Storage methods for coins back then did not protect coins from tarnishing, or even contributed to it. A blast white piece of 19th century silver has almost certainly been cleaned or dipped and is not original. Natural toning, from a mint bag, album or coin roll is part of a coin's history.
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It used to be called tarnish, and certainly added nothing to the value of a silver coin.

So true. Of course that was back when almost any coin was available. Some time ago coins had to be cleaned too. If you showed someone a coin collection, the first thing someone would say is why don't you clean those things. They sure look dirty.
As I mentioned due to the possibility of never acquiring a completed collection, many have gone to other systems of this hobby. It is becoming like some like the Mona Liza painting and some would paint right over it.
Think it was Mr. Wrigley that answered about the symbol on his gum with Some call it an arrow and some call it a spear"
He didn't care as long as you bought it.
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I borrowed the above Morgan photos from this site http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp . This guy really gets into the toned Morgan dollar thing in a big way. He did a write up on them that is really worth the read. I have a new appreciation for these after reading what he presents. I never knew that the Mint would put sulfur in the mint bags to prevent rats from chewing on them while they were in storage.
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Include me in the group that hates toned coins, I will not buy 1 with even slight toning. In my opinion toning is the same as rusting and hides flaws. Of course to each their own.
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It used to be called tarnish





IMO most are ugly, some are nice and very few are !

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