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Bedrock of the Community
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Mk yea way to modern for cac. No need for a cac on 70s anyway you can't get more perfect.
Condor that's what I was hoping to try. I'm going to need this coin eventually for my modern set to be completed and the pcgs are so rare and in the ms case just flat out doesn't exist I'm trying to come up with other ways to get one. Even raw versions of the coin haven't been the easiest to find
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  My friend who is putting together his slabbed 7070 was asking me a similar question. He has a few 1st Generation ANACS ( ANA) slabs that the clear holders are "yellowing" on the sides and was wondering if I would send them in to PCGS for cross-over. He also has one coin that WAS in a PCGS slab but the seller broke it out for his 7070 collection, kept the slab info insert and sent it along with the coin. Should he send the info insert in the 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 flip? Edited by oih82w8
10/02/2012 12:33 pm
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Should he send the info insert in the 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 flip? Honestly I wouldnt. Once its out of the slab they could care less what the slab said even if it was theres. I will say I got a couple ANACS coins to break out for my type set and compared to PCGS and NGC their slab just feels rather cheap in all honesty. The other two I know I can drop and not really worry about if it happened the ANACS one seems to be a thinner less protective plastic or at least feels that way |
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I don't like the "newer" angled top slabs from ANACS either, and they are easily broken out of, you don't need any special tools or vise, just something with an edge (I've used another coin to pry open a newer ANACS slab) they do seem to be cheaply made.
I did not see where PCGS will accept ANACS slabs for crossover though, or did I skim over it?
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10/02/2012 3:33 pm
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Agreed about the new ANACS slab. I dont like the angled top either. When I first got it I basically tried to pull it apart to see if it would work when I felt it and it seemed like its actually doable if you grabbed the right spots.
PCGS doesn't accept crossovers from anyone but NGC. I think NGC is the same way only accepting PCGS but I'm not 100 percent sure about that
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PCGS will accept just about anybody for crossover. I recently sent in ANACS, NGC and SEGS slabs in all for crossover.
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I never knew PCGS published those results but it looks like less than half of the coins sent in for crossover makes it. I would love to know which ones had the most success of being crossed and I bet some would probably be surprised if that information was available because I have a suspicion NGC may not be the the company with the highest success rate going from some of the NGC coins I have seen graded compared to the newer ANACS coins I have seen
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PCGS will accept just about anybody for crossover. I recently sent in ANACS, NGC and SEGS slabs in all for crossover. I wonder if they just consider them raw coins as opposed to tracking them as a true cross over?  Quote:
I would love to know which ones had the most success of being crossed and I bet some would probably be surprised if that information was available because I have a suspicion NGC may not be the the company with the highest success rate going from some of the NGC coins I have seen graded compared to the newer ANACS coins I have seen I would love to see a complete break down of the success for cross overs. I agree it would be really interesting to see it. I wouldnt be shocked at all if ANACS out performed NGC, I just hate their holders |
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Hmmm...should they be sent in as RAW?
Hmmm...send 'em in their original holders, if they don't make the grade they are left intact.
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I will say this, out of 16 coins I sent in, all but 3 crossed at the same grade and those three were NGC coins. But I also had 4 coins go up in grade which were also in NGC holders.
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Thats a good question I have no idea to be honest. I dont think you can do the left in tact for 70s and I wonder if that only applies to true cross overs like the NGC slabs. I cant imagine they would send back a coin in an SGS slab
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(I've used another coin to pry open a newer ANACS slab) they do seem to be cheaply made. I just broke open 2 ANACS slabs for my type set and they are in fact made out of cheap plastic. It took longer two wrap the towel around them before hitting it then it did to open it up. 3 hits max and that thing came wide open, the 2nd slab was basically the first hit. PCGS and NGC slabs are far far stronger |
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You think these latest generations are easy to open but the first gen blue label (was a darker blue than the second blue label) could be popped open by grabbing the top and bottom and twisting like you were ringing out a sponge. The scariest part of it is over 50% of the time if you took any care at all when doing so you could not tell it was broken open and the coin could be changed. I think I did it and took pictures with a Morgan dollar slab and pit a Ike in its place and took more pictures Quote:
He also has one coin that WAS in a PCGS slab but the seller broke it out for his 7070 collection, kept the slab info insert and sent it along with the coin. Should he send the info insert in the 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 flip? Sorry just saw this question. There is no reason to send in the insert unless you just want PCGS to remove that one from the population report as they will treat it as raw (as it is now that its been cracked out) and will have to go through the grading process as any other raw coin would that has never been in a PCGS slab. When one of the coins I have cracked out for an album is sold I always send them the label also but let them know the coin should be treated as raw even though this was the TPG's opinion before it was cracked out |
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Quote:You think these latest generations are easy to open but the first gen blue label (was a darker blue than the second blue label) could be popped open by grabbing the top and bottom and twisting like you were ringing out a sponge. The scariest part of it is over 50% of the time if you took any care at all when doing so you could not tell it was broken open and the coin could be changed. I think I did it and took pictures with a Morgan dollar slab and pit a Ike in its place and took more pictures Wow. I honestly thought I might be able to just pull these apart. I've always thought they did a pretty good job with the coins of theirs I've seen, but after feeling their slabs in hand its easy to see why they arent considered on the same level as PCGS and NGC. No matter how accurate you grade it does no good if you can pop the slab and replace the coin |
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