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Quote: The coin is common ground, it appeals to both the Brits and the Aussies...that can only be a good thing :)
 Well spoken 
Edited by trout1105 07/14/2012 06:09 am
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United Kingdom
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I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge that the "Holey Dollars" - that series of generally Spanish/Spanish American 8 reales with holes punched out and labelled with an Australian colony or settlement as Australian.
However, other places used those same coins with holes - for example, Costa Rica, Demerara & Essequibo, St Vincent.
I hope the Ozzies aren't going to claim them as Australian.
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Pillar of the Community
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What can I say florin old mate, the cretins are getting more abundant, Must be something to do with the fading ozone layers 
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 must be what other excuse is there 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I think that the Downies grading is correct. There are no flat spots at all attributable to wear on the high points of the design on either side. The high points on the obverse however, are dull.
The obverse grading is therefore EF.
Normally, the shield side of these coins seems to hide the wear much better, and presents in slightly better condition than the obverse.
The small nicks to be found on the obverse would detract from the value a bit. That is to be expected, because 22 ct. gold is relatively soft, and the detail more exposed to wear, due the design.
The sovereign did not circulate as much in Australia as it did in Britain. Most of the Australian sovereigns went straight overseas, mainly to Britain and India, to pay for imports into Australia. It was possible to go to a bank any time and ask for sovereigns.
The half sovereign DID circulate more widely amongst the population in Australia, up until about 1910, alongside the paper currency, as a backing to it. That explains why Australian minted half sovereigns on average are in poorer condition than the sovereigns, and why far fewer of them were minted. Mintage of the half sovereign was in response to commercial demand for them as a circulation coin.
This also helps to explain why Australian half sovereigns have a much higher numismatic value than their British counterparts, which also had much larger mintages.
Edited by sel_69l 07/14/2012 9:56 pm
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The reasons for my grading are as follows. Obverse: The hair band lines on Vicky's head should be more pronounced, and the hair lines at the front more pronounced in an EF coin and as somebody else said there are the scratches on her cheek and on the upper jaw.
Reverse: The Scottish lion is too flat and I would expect more detail on the English leopard's faces, especially in the lower right quarter for an EF coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I agree with Pertinax's grade on this coin' VF+ or EF-40, The dings on the rim are quite distracting as well
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Well the only real detracting marks I see are the scar on the cheek and the small rim damage although this damage seems smaller in hand. Btw I bought the coin 
Edited by oh my florin 07/14/2012 11:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I once had a complete type set of Australian sovereigns and half sovereigns, including an Adelaide Pound in V / VF. The halves were all of the Sydney Mint I bought the Adelaide Pound out of money given to me for my 21st birthday.
The complete set was sold through Noble Auctions, along with about 100 Roman coins, which included 2 aureii and 2 solidii. The money received went to a deposit for our first house. Also had pre decimal type set each type, represented by the rarest date for type, except the '30 penny, which was a '25.
That was a long time ago.
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Nice only just got into gold now when I first saw some of the shield sovereigns they look really good 
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Valued Member
Australia
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   way to go ? gold coins or gold bullion ? that is the question .. ,, kel ,,
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Pillar of the Community
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Sorry gold coins 
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Coins are much more interesting to me
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I received the coin yesterday and I have to say that it looks absolutly fantastic and that scar on the queens cheek is very very small which you would miss if you didnt know what you where looking for. Otherwise very very very very happy 
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