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Fake Spanish 5 Pesetas

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Fake-Spanish-5-Pesetas

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and one section of the edge looks like this -
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22.5gms; target is 25.0 gms).


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The 1870 5 Peseta has been counterfeited in different time periods for different reasons. It is very difficult to tell in this case whether you might have a circulating variety or not.

The earliest forgeries of that coin should be early silver electroplates on a brassy or copper core. The coin itself would be struck from transfer dies made with any of 3 or 4 methods.

The edge is usually the place to look to be sure but the photos are too fuzzy to make any comment.
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I've got one where the dies were transferred so shallow, everything but the high-relief details has melded into the background. For example, the poor woman seems to have been decapitated:

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The "silver" coating has worn away in spots and, given how it's turning white rather than black with age, I'm pretty sure it's not actual silver plating. And, like BillSnyder's example, mine is way underweight.

Mine came in a bulk lot of world coins at auction; there was a Monarchy 5 pesetas from 1883 with the same lack of details.
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BillSnyder- Numismatic forgeries of late 19th-century 5 Pta coins are VERY common in Spain. Every time that I am in Barcelona I feel as though I see 10 fakes (usually pretty bad impact-transfer fakes) for every real coin. So this type of coin is a good example of a coin that is heavily counterfeited. So, ultimately, you just have to know how to spot a fake coin by weight and indicators of casting or impact-transfer.
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