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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all. I have spent a lot of time over the past year or so putting this site together and it is finally done! It is a site that catalogues my collection of ancient coins.

I wrote it all myself using HTML coding. Not every picture is up yet, but the site itself is complete. If you would like to see a larger image of a particular coin just click on the thumbnail image.

NOTE: This site is optimized for larger screens. If you have a smaller screen you will have to scroll right to see the entire thing. Also, it is only viewable on Internet Explorer due to compatability issues. Other web browsers will NOT display the site properly, if at all.

I welcome any feedback and comments. Post them here in this thread!

=> http://romanvmimperivm.com/
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just finished checking your site out. Nice job! Photos a little dark but I like the way you have everything set up there. I have it bookmarked and will check in from time to time to look at all those Roman coins you have.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nothus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, great work. Glad I am not the only one with a pound and a half of Constantius II's. As IndianGoldEagle noted, the pics come through a bit dark (at least on my work comp), but I am still having great fun looking at them. Kudos!
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While kind of plain in the graphics department which is what seems like what a lot of web developers focus on now days. Plain can also be good as a site loads a lot faster than most and when basic HTML is used, a site would be harder to hack into. Which are pluses in my book.

I'd say this is a nice gallery site and I enjoyed looking through all those coins you have posted. The site is also easy to navigate and I like that you can click on a coin and it's displayed in a new small window with the current page still loaded. Great choice for the name of the site as well.

Websites are always a lot of work. At first setting it up and then many updates afterwards. I can easily build a website and to be honest I've thought about it. Laziness has been the key factor in my case. lol
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I fail to see the appeal of writing code that can not be read when the pages were simple enough to be in plain brown wrapper html Anyone else running Chrome can see the internal pages by typing in the code:
http://romanvmimperivm.com/constantiusii.html for example

Typo: The fourth coin down is Lugdunum not Arles.

It seems like a lot of work unless you work for IE and are required to make things difficult on the competition's customers. I gave up on IE a couple years ago when they started getting strange faster than I could keep up with.
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07/15/2012 1:49 pm
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very impressive, I wish I could do something like that for my collection. Excellent pictures also.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ditched IE a long time ago. For one, you might as well say it's integrated into Windows or your desktop and naturally prone to picking up malware. Not only security issues, it's slow, bulky and has a bunch of features I wouldn't ever use. Maybe other people do and that's fine.

And on further thought. Another reason why I haven't made a site for my coins is because I still have a lot more to learn about ancient coins. Although, sure, you can learn as you go while you design a site.

Once again, good job on making the website.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the responses so far! dougsmit,I take it that you think I took the wrong approach in writing code. How should I have done it, and is it too late to change it? And thanks for the heads up on the typo. I am sure there are a few more on there somewhere.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Williamsonj320 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Write it in ASP.Net using a database to catalog your coins. Then all you have to do is add new coins to the database and then you don't have to update the pages directly.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh :( I use Firefox, occasionally Chrome... gave up IE five years ago, such as why on earth I had to Google to find how to correct glitches when surely Microsoft should issue IE glitch free. Great work however, look forward to the non IE version ;)
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 Posted 07/15/2012  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamesicus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ancientcoinguy wrote:


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I welcome any feedback and comments. Post them here in this thread!


Strive for interoperability -- make your page viewable and usable in any graphical Browser: MSIE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari, etc.

Here is a brief "how to" I wrote:

http://jp29.org/create.htm
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 Posted 07/15/2012  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice site! Great collection! The Vespasian is really cool!
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 Posted 07/15/2012  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job
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 Posted 07/15/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Job.

When I created my own website I only used about 10 html commands in total. So it's even more primitive, but I think I got a good functionality. Feel free to have a look and get ideas for code.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no training with code writing but never use fancy commands or software that writes code for you. I don't know Javascript which is used on your internal page I linked above but it works. The question is why Chrome and Firefox display your home page with one photo and internal pages with characters in languages I wish I understood (did I even see the Nagari symbol for 100 in there?)? I do not claim my code is better. Your Constantius page reminded me of my grading page which shares the simple layout:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do.../grade2.html

You can pull up the source and see the code but if you don't read plain brown wrapper html like I don't read Javascript that might not help. Mine does run on IE (just checked for the first time in years), Chrome and Firefox. I have not checked Opera or other browsers for years either.

Another suggestion that is just an opinion: Every page should have navigation links as part of the code of that page. Your Constantius page must have been displayed by a Javascript parent but when I hacked into it by reading its name from your source code, I was unable to return from it to your home or any other page. If everything works (meaning if I ran IE) that is no problem. It makes no difference how those links are done. My pages have a banner and a word link which makes them look so old fashioned that professional code writers laugh at them but my intent was not to dazzle with web design but to transmit numismatic information to as many different computers as possible. I have to give IE some credit in that they retained backward compatibility to my old fashion code which was a lot closer to acceptable in 1997 when I started that site than it is today in the days of dazzle. That is my suggestion. Your design and layout is neat and simple - exactly what I like in informative pages. I regret that you wrote it is such a complex language that it can not be seen except by users of one browser when it uses none of the fancy features that made them abandon compatibility in the first place.

Trivia: In 1997 I wanted to learn html I collected coins and discovered the WWW was weak in sites on ancient coins so I started one. My intent was to use coins as a subject of no importance while I was training in html Before long I discovered that I was not cut out for web design but was having a blast explaining my hobby to beginners who, like me, were not thrilled by what was available online on the subject. I stopped trying to learn new HTML tricks about a year after I started. The mapped image on my home page was the most complex thing I did and probably what convinced me I was never going to be a coder of ability. It took me another 5 years to run out of things I wanted to say on coins when I stopped updating. Since then I keep telling myself that I will do new pages but the desire to write them now is lost to participating in CCF and other coin formats. I hope you will continue to write your page and spread the word on the hobby.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamesicus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am 83 years old (in one month) and have never taken a web page or HTML writing course - I am strictly self-taught. I got into this because at one time I was a Technical Advisor (volunteer) for a non-profit organization dedicated to training disabled people in accessible web design. We had members who were severely disabled (including Deafblind or with respirator dependent Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy) who we trained to become independently proficient Web authors, so I had to get reasonably proficient myself in web page writing - and pretty quick. It was a most rewarding experience and I remain committed to Web Content Accessibility to this day.

I have now written over two hundred web pages - devoted to my numerous hobbies and pursuits (including Ancient coins) - and currently maintain over one hundred pages. I offer the preceding in order to show that I have encountered - and solved - most Web Authoring problems imaginable.

One thing stands out relating to full screen width web page design (such as the one you are producing): make sure that the layout is flexible - that it will shrink or expand to fill each visitor's screen so that they don't have to scroll horizontally to read content - most people hate having to do that. And, of course, make sure your pages are interoperable - that they will function correctly in all graphical browsers.

All of my pages fulfill those requirements. Here are two examples for study of their structure:

My portal page (which also has links to all my web pages) - http://jp29.org/index.php - contains links to all standard references and resources relating to Web Authoring.

A sample Ancient Roman Coin page - http://jp29.org/plndr.htm

Please keep on writing Ancient coin web pages - we need to "spread the word" as much as possible. Every time you write or edit a page the process gets easier and the page gets better - web pages are always under construction.

James
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07/15/2012 6:41 pm
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