Proof ASE/Frn Set (Making History Coin & Currency Set)

Net coinnews.net usually reports weekly mint sales in various articles

Net had to edit this post its actually .net not .com sorry about that

Net no problem. And welcome if I havent already told you that lol

Sorry, I have to disagree with most of you on the genesis of the SF set. I think the Making History set was the special ASE set the Mint meant to offer that was planned immediately after the fiasco of the 25th Annie set, and the SF ASE set came into being because so many collectors voted on the RP ASE to be minted again this year from that survey they sent out. Because they didn't really believe the results of the survey, they inserted the SF set ahead of the Making History set, in case the SF set didn't sell and they were stuck with a bunch of leftover coins. The artwork looks pretty finished and probably was done months ago. I don't think the Mint really planned to issue another RP otherwise, and the two-coin set felt like an ad hoc offering that was cobbled together from elements (packaging design/COA, etc.) from the 25th.

I asked one of the phone reps about the Making History set last week and she said the set had been in the pipeline for the last couple of months, and the S-mint proof ASEs were run 1st for this set. At least that is what her supervisor told her to tell customers about which coin was in the MAHCC set. She also confided that the SF ASE set was merely sprung on the call reps and they didn't anticipate "that many sales." Interesting how a "company" like Mint works when it's run by committee. In the real world such a company would go out of business soon.

Edit-Probably the MAHCC set was in the works for the LAST two or three years. It's two separate government agencies with their internal autonomy that have to cooperate to bring this to market. Just doesn't happen easily, akin to selling Texan oil to the Saudis.

Just imagine if it had been the dollar coin and the dollar note! Ha!



True. Now hopefully the RP doesn't show up in another set in a couple weeks. Any guesses how many of these MAHCC sets they'll sell?

Somehow youre post just messed up the format of the thread on my comp anyway




For circulating coins thats true, for NIFC coins its the exact opposite. The mint is 100 percent a business for everything not minted to be sent to a bank.




Again I have to disagree. I do agree that this year theyve started putting out a lot of stuff that makes no sense to say they put out more things, but if all they did was a proof set and a bullion coin for each metal type modern coin collecting would be dead for all intensive purposes. Not everyone wants to spend enough on the gold or platinum coins so youd buy a proof set and a silver bullion ASE and call it a year. Simple enough but if you only have to spend 5 minutes a year on new coins youll just stop caring and turn to older sets

Hopefully theres an IT savy member who can rescue this format




The building itself doesn't, but the fastest way to see a new mint director is for the mint to lose money on products it didnt have to make.

Its one thing if they are in the red from making circulating coins (but that would have to be changed quick) but anything they havent been required to make by congress you bet they care if it makes money or not. If they didnt care they would sell it at cost, which they dont.




At the time people werent saying oh finally the 09 VDB S is here. We dont know what will be popular in the future or command those premiums until the future comes.

But Id also say the only benefit would be from a historical educational point. If new products dry up and everyone starts looking for the same thing thatll price out collectors without large budgets. It wont be long till the hobby starts to suffer as only those with deep pockets can really pick it up other than circulating change.




The new stuff sells very well, Id say the modern collector is far more than a niche of the community at this point.

Old silver dimes are worth more than junk. Their bullion value is higher than any numismatic value they have however and that will not change unless silver drops. Theres always going to be a point though with those where they arent old enough to bring big money, or were minted to much too, but are in too poor of condition to bring a big collector value for our life time anyway and probably the next generations as well.

But youre also forgetting, circulating coins will never get the attention they did in the old days. Credit Cards, online payments, and checks are responsible for that.

I would also say if you really want the hobby to grow the new products are a welcome addition. I got into it because I came across some of the modern war commems. I loved them and started to get them and caught the bug and it grew from there. Would I have started collecting without it, I dont know, but I can say the reason I am today is because of them.

Im sure some of its a generational difference as I am in my mid 20s so its just how I grew up as opposed to say someone in their 50s who spent most of their life using cash and has memories of using the old silver chance where newer generations have never had any silver in their money.