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Smackdown #4 - Ladies Of The Ancient World!!

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Now it is time for another SMACKDOWN! All the same rules and setup. The only thing that's different is I'm running the show this time around. And so, bear with me and let's get this show on the road.

THE RULES

Two coins per person maximum entry!

Any region, nation or empire in the ancient world is allowed.

When I say ladies of the ancient world. I am looking for coins that have large head or bust portraits only. On the obverse or reverse is fine.

Any lady is allowed, including goddess, empress, etc.

I am choosing this type of smackdown also because my collection is somewhat limited in variety but I try to make it as open to everyone as possible as well.

I'm extending the coin entry deadline for more than 24 hours. Deadline will be this coming Sunday at 10PM EST -4:00 GMT, July 22, 2012. Voting will begin shortly after the entry deadline.

POINT DESCRIPTION

GOLD = 3 points
SILVER = 2 points
BRONZE = 1 point

And now, for the big question. ARE YOU READY!?

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 Posted 07/20/2012  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And now here are my coins that I'm entering. Certainly not top grade but hey, let's see how they do.

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#1 Roman Imperial - Faustina II


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#2 Roman Imperial - Severina
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 Posted 07/20/2012  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This going to be a tough one for me. As you know, I have been putting together my "Ladies of Rome" sub-collection, so I have too many to choose from. What a dilemma. Too bad I don't really have a corral of beautiful ladies. Nah, on second thought, one is enough. Give me some time and let me weigh my options on this one before I select two.
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 Posted 07/20/2012  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a problem. That's one reason why I decided to have an extension so that there is less pressure in picking a coin and more time for others to join in.

I have four lady coins, the others are Salonina and Faustina I. The Faustina II is the best I have right now. I am still very new to collecting so I don't really have an extensive collection yet.
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My lone entry this time--a lovely bust of Artemis on a Syracuse Litra.
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Sicily, Syracuse. Agathokles. 317-289 BC. AE24 Litra. Period 4, circa 295 BC. SWTEIRA, head of Artemis right, in triple-pendant earring & necklace, quiver over shoulder. Reverse, Winged thunderbolt, AGAQOKLEOS above, BASILEOS below 9.58 gr

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 Posted 07/20/2012  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin! I like the greenish color to the patina as well. Keep em coming coin brothers!!
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 Posted 07/20/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To keep this educational, I'll pick a couple of women not everyone may know. Each of these is my only coin of this woman. I'm really sorry I don't have a Constantia or Dyrantilla to enter.

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Antonia was the daughter of Mark Antony and Octavia (Augustus' sister), mother of Claudius and Germanicus and grandmother of Caligula who probably had her poisoned. The coin, a dupondius, was issued by Claudius years after her death. The reverse figure is Claudius. This example has quite a bit of wear but shows the yellow color of orichalcum and a nicer than average red patina in the recesses. It is my best red patina coin (not a topic I'd suggest for a Smackdown).

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Second is Galeria Valeria, daughter of Diocletian and wife of Galerius. The reverse is Venus and is one of that goddess' last appearances on coins. The coin is a follis dating to about 308 after her husband had replaced her father as Augustus.
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Nice coins so far, but I really like the Antonia. For those of you who know me, you know why. Actually, I let one of these slip away the other day. Not in this good of condition, but I would have liked to have had it in my collection.
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 Posted 07/21/2012  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm really sorry I don't have a Constantia or Dyrantilla to enter.


Both of those are incredibly rare and very very expensive. Both of the entires in AORTA says they will cost well into four figure price range if they're available. Although, it would be awesome to see one here.

Constantia is apparently even rarer? Only 2-3 known examples exist to the RIC authors in the 1960s. According to AORTA, no new examples have appeared since then.
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#1 - The Amazon Kyme - one of my favourite coins in my collection

Kyme, Aeolis, AR Tetradrachm, 165 - 140 B.C.
Obv:- Head of Amazon Kyme right, wearing taenia
Rev:- Horse walking right, oinochoe below, ΚΥΜ'ΙΟΝ left, Κ'ΛΛΙ'Σ (magistrate) in ex, all in wreath;
Ref:- SNG Von Aulock 1636, SNG Cop 103
weight 16.392g, maximum diameter 33.1mm, die axis 0o

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#2 - Magnia Urbica. Coins of Magnia Urbica are generally scarce, ths certainly applies to Lugdunum. This variant from this officina is rare.

Magnia Urbica AE Antoninianus.
Obv:-- MAGNIA VRBICA AVG, Draped bust right on crescent, hair brushed in straight lines, plait carried up the back to top of head and running under stephane
Rev:-- VENVS GENETRIX, Venus standing facing, head left, apple upward in right hand, vertical scepter in left
Minted in Lugdunum (A in left field).
RIC V pt. 2, 337 var (not listed from this officina). Bastien -, Bastien Supplement -, Bastien Supplement II 613α (2 examples cited)
This is the third known example from this officina.
23mm, 3.16g

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Ummm? ... hey, why do I have to be the chump that has to post immediately after dougsmit and maridvnvm?

oh well, here goes:

ROMAN REPUBLIC
C.Hosidius C.f.Geta

AR Denarius Serratus
64 BC. Rome Mint
20mm
3.63 gm
Obverse: GETA -- III·VIR, Draped bust of Diana to right, with her hair simply arranged and with bow and quiver at her shoulder.
Reverse: C.HOSIDI.C.F, Wild Calydonian boar standing right, pierced by spear and attacked by hound.
Ref. Hosidia 2. Cr.407/1. Syd.904.
NOTE: Linear banker's mark on neck
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Neapolis AR Nomos
Date: 320-300 BC
Diameter: 20.6 mm
Weight: 7.4 gr
Obverse: Diademed female head right (Parthenope, nymph)
Reverse: Man-headed bull walking right; Nike flying above, crowning bull, DI below.
References: SNG ANS 327
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NOTE => there is also a pretty "hot" image of NIKE, flying above the bull (that's bonus-points)
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Doug those are two beautiful coins. I've never seen and example of Antonia and the details on the Galeria Valeria is fantastic. Maridvnvm your two coins are also two beautiful and rare examples, the bust on the Magnia Urbica has excellent details. With my limited budget I can only dream about owning any of these coins. My limited colection of females can not compare to these beauties, so I am going to obstain from this smackdown and just enjoy seeing what other beauties will be posted.
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Some real stiff competition here. Beautiful coins posted so far. I've decided to do a "Beauty and the Beast". For my "Beauty" it was really difficult to select between Julia Domna, Julia Mamaea, Plautilla or Fausta. But in the end, I decided on Venus. My first coin is a Julius Caesar coin struck at Carthage in 47-46 BC with the Diademed head of Venus:

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My second coin is my "Beast". I decided to show a coin with one of the three Gorgons. This is my APOLLONIA PONTICA coin struck circa 450-400 BC. The obverse shows one of the Gorgoneian facing with snakes for hair and a protruding tongue:

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Great coins! Female portraits in my collection are limited as well but I will still try to post a couple.

Gil-galad, are personifications allowed if they are portraits e.g., Tyche, Roma, Constantinopolis?
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 Posted 07/21/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, look at all the awesome coins heading this way. That's 11 coins so far. Keep em' coming!


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Gil-galad, are personifications allowed if they are portraits e.g., Tyche, Roma, Constantinopolis?


That's a good question. If they are women personifications, I'd have to say yes. Roma and Constantinopolis look more like men on the Roman Imperial Commemorative coins, so no I'd have to say. On the obverse side of the coin.
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Roma is definitely female and I believe Constantinopolis is as well. In Latin Roma is the feminine of Roman.
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