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Edited by dealndeal
07/22/2012 2:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Cool, some people have all the luck, congrats great fined.
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Good find. I think the north-south offstrikes are the nicest....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
07/22/2012 09:05 am
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Hi dealndeal,
For description, see on numicanada.com the description of # 34.2, in section "Erreurs and variétés " : this is an " Uncentred brosdstrike ". To join this, clic on " Errors ", on the bottom of front page.
You can also see pictures on coinsandcanada.com
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It is an offstrike, not a broadstrike. Here is a more useful web link with good photos and correct definitions. If your coin is circulated, it might fetch $25 in an ebay auction. I typically can find these in dealers' inventories for about $10. Of course, the price jumps considerably for mint state examples. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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SPP-Ottawa, I refer you, for info, to the publication : " Canadian Error Coins " by Terry A. Compbell, 1995, from " The Unitrade Press " , Toronto.
See, on page 56, as example, one cent 1964 " Uncentred Broadstrike "; you can find in this page good photo ( 1964 cent ) and correct definition, like above, in my reference.
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I know Terry Campbell, he is a coin dealer in southern Ontario. However, he is not an expert on errors, and just because a self-published book is in print, does not mean it is correct. There is a fine line between coins struck off-centre, and broadstruck coins. If any part, even the smallest part of the design element is missing (not including the rim or the denticles), the coin is off centre - period. Check out this link on broadstruck versus off struck (or off centre) strikes: http://www.bakercoins.net/about/art...dstruck.htmlIn the 1961 coin seen in this thread, elements of the word CANADA are missing at the base of the letters. Therefore, by definition, it is off-centre. If you are passionate about errors, I would encourage you to join CONECA. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Sorry SPP-Ottawa,
I am not an expert, but I see that Mr John Regitko an expert in " Errors & Varieties ", refer to numicanada.com "... as a popular and educational website ", in the CCN, 31/07/2012.
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I am familiar with Numicanada's website, but it too is not perfect. I was doing some research recently, and found an example: http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...strike&id=20Click on the: 5 cents 1942 - Weak strike (Image #1096) That, is not a weak strike. The deepest part of the reverse die, hair on the beavers head and butt, is fully struck. It is Die Deterioration, probably an over polished die. I will refrain from putting my personal opinion of John Regitko in writing, because it is not good. He lost all credibility with me when he ran that contest last year in Canadian Coin News, and called a garage press-job coin a genuine error (1974 cent). If you recall, a subsequent article by Mike Marshall (a long time error collector) basically proved that point and Mr. Regitko wrong. Also, at the Coin Expo, Mr. Regitko wrongly attributed the 1996 5-cent error that was in the 2012 RCNA Journal for July/August (Oops of the Month) by Henry Nienhuis (p. 354-355). John called it a rotated dies, multiple die clash (heh). That 1996 5-cent used to be my coin, and at the pub afterwards with both Mike and Henry, we basically decided we needed to get this published first, and correctly. We all make mistakes, myself included. But, some people will never admit they are wrong.... the names you mentioned in this thread are two perfect examples... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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07/22/2012 7:12 pm
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Spp
I think you are being a little hard on Mr. Regitko . He is not perfect but he has done a tremendous amount for the hobby and should be cut a little slack .
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BTW - It is considered to be off center if some denticles are missing as they are part of the design .
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Shrug - used I cut him a lot of slack, until I met him in person... I don't discredit his contribution to the hobby, but have you ever tried to voice an opinion with someone who, in their own mind, was always right and never wrong? (Of course, wives are excluded from this debate, because we know SHE is always right...)  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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07/22/2012 7:45 pm
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I think that when some persons make something ( articles, web site or.... ), it is normal to do some errors but when peoples are never in action, all is always perfect.
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I think that when some persons make something ( articles, web site or.... ), it is normal to do some errors but when peoples are never in action, all is always perfect. That is why, as error collectors, we publish every chance we get. Hence, the 1996 5-cent you see in this summer's "Error of the Month". Another example, John Regitko completely dismissed the "brown nickels" from 1982 to 1990 when they were showed to him and other coin dealers - they called them "snowbank coins". So, we analyzed a bunch in my lab at work, and then published it in the CN Journal (see the June 2012 issue, p. 270-273). Our hobby advances by asking questions. Rudely dismissing the person asking the questions is not a productive debate... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Thanks for all the great info...and debate..I think I'll keep the coin, if its only worth around $20.
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