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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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while purchasing three more ounces of silver maples yesterday, my coin dealer told me that he feels silver will be up to 80$ an ounce respectively in the next three years?
agree or disagree
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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At his speculation of $80, he is just encouraging you to buy more silver, by reinforcing a decision you have just made.
Ignore him. YOU make your own decisions on how much silver you should buy.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with Sel. right or wrong all silver dealers are always gonna tell you it is gonna go up to those numbers in a certain amount of time. Whether they truly believe it or not....
In the couple years I have been into pmz if I learned one thing, nobody knows when those lines will move again and which way they will go. They may move sideways within a quarter or two bucks either way just as they have been for a month plus since this latest dip for the next several months, then suddenly they dive or spike big time and all we can do is speculate what caused it. The Feds? A crumbling economy? The recent job report? The stock market? A weak or strong dollar or other world currency? Which party gets the White house?
The list is infinite and no way to really say one way or another who is right or wrong....
I simply look at the history charts and know eventually gold and silver will be worth more then what it is now one day, if the last 100 years are any indication. And with many of us truly understanding the major economic stresses on not only Europe but USA and many other places, just seems like a no brainer to invest in both G&S with these bargain prices for at least a hedge verse inflation on at least a portion of ones assets. But again that is just my gut feeling and there is no reason anyone should put all their eggs into one basket on a gut feeling, even though many who are rich took that chance and it paid off, while others many more just ended up losing their shirt, lol....
Edited by Silverhawk74 07/22/2012 11:53 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
If you like your coin dealer's prices, keep buying from him (or her). Otherwise, I'd take his opinions on price with a grain of salt. Sel and Hawk have it absolutely right. Do your own research. Form your own opinions. Then, buy or sell based on what makes sense to you.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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anyone that could give you an opinion like this is just exactly that, just an opinion. It could just as easily be down to $15 an ounce in the next year. Speculators have been saying up and down for the past 3 or so years and even when it goes the other way they say just wait you will see what I predicted come to pass soon. If someone selling silver actually thought it was going to jump a large percentage in a short amount of time I really doubt they would encourage more sales, they would just sale what they had to sell at the time and hope to keep as much as they possibly could for those high prices they feel will come soon. So someone that is selling tells people there is going to be a huge spike in price in a short amount of time usually has some type of stake in it and trying to make additional sales at the current price
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I simply look at the history charts and know eventually gold and silver will be worth more then what it is now one day, if the last 100 years are any indication. Good plan, Hawk. While the past does not guarantee what will happen in the future, we can look at the general trends over time and get a little insight into what may happen in the future. My thought is that gold and silver are good stores of value over time. We do know that inflation is occurring and that it will continue to occur, so paper dollars are not a good store of value over time. Alternatives to dollars as stores of value are needed if we are to avoid having our wealth consumed by inflation. As to inflation itself, we know that the "official" numbers that are being reported are bogus. Every time real inflation exceeds that which the gov and the Fed desire, they simply change the calculation method until it does not. This is not science. It is the expedience of politics applied to economics. :-/
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: while purchasing three more ounces of silver maples yesterday, my coin dealer told me that he feels silver will be up to 80$ an ounce respectively in the next three years? Or $10. Truth is, he was manipulating you to buy more silver, just like any good, but not necessarily honest, vendor would do to reel in a fresh mark. Silver's price fluctuation poses the same sort of risks as any blue chip stock might have, or maybe more so, due to the involvement of certain central banks that will go nameless.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If it means anything, My dealer thinks that silver has already topped and that everyone who is in silver is gonna lose. Another opinion I guess.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Yeah, Sam, that is another opinion but it is not one that a lot of us here share. While no one knows what the future price of anything will be before the market sets it, I'm in the group that thinks that silver and gold will be worth more as unbacked paper money becomes worth less and less. It is a fact that the US dollar has lost over 95% of the purchasing power that it had in 1913 when it was backed by gold. There is no reason whatever to assume that this trend won't continue as long as the same government and Fed policies are implemented. Yes, those policies could change and most of us hope that they will be changed to something that is better thought out. If they are not, however, it will be better to use PMs as stores of value rather than paper money and other paper wealth items. While I would never put all of my money into any one kind of investment, no matter how great I thought that it was, diversifying into PMs to the extent that seems reasonable seems a very good idea to me. In my situation, reasonable is somewhere in the 10-15% range. It may or may not be different for other folks. As always, using a dollar cost averaging approach will usually work well for this. Dollar cost selling on the other end of this should also work well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Last year many of the commercials you hear on the radio or see on television were giving their prediction on gold. Companies such as Rosland Capital and Goldline were predicting that gold will go up to $2,000.00 in 2012. It's now 2012 and I haven't seen gold making a run toward that $2,000.00 mark. Not that I believe it won't happen in the future, no one can accurately predict it.
I find these commercials to be slightly misleading since they are coming from companies that profit off of your purchase. As someone already said, these are predictions and are nothing more. Everyone who buys or sells precious metals has an opinion about whether they are going to rise in value or fall. It helps motivate them when they make their purchase or when it is time to sell.
I read a lot of predictions throughout the year, but I don't take these predictions as anything more than an opinion. I found the most knowledge I gained is through reading up on world events and historical data. For myself, these and other factors help me decide when I should buy or sell.
Remember any dealer is looking to make money and giving an opinion about the future of PM is one way to market their product.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
863 Posts |
there are lots of reasons for silver to be at 80 an ounce in the next three years. there are twice as many reasons for it to stay where it is
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: while purchasing three more ounces of silver maples yesterday, my coin dealer told me that he feels silver will be up to 80$ an ounce respectively in the next three years? I tend to think your dealer's guess on the future price of silver might be on the low side based on the sad state of the world's financial system. I think we might see silver prices in the $200-250 range in the next 3-5 years. Of course he wants to sell you silver but if he really thought it had no future why would he want to bury his customers in it. He wants you to do good so that you will continue to buy from him, it is good for business. Any dealer that thinks the bottom is going to fall out of prices will not be buying much across the counter to prevent being stuck with it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: It's now 2012 and I haven't seen gold making a run toward that $2,000.00 mark. Not that I believe it won't happen in the future, no one can accurately predict it. Yes, it is 2012 but we still have 5 months left to go. The fall election will be a BIG event that will probably have quite an effect on the economic picture. It is still possible that gold will reach $2000 an oz. this year. It has already made an initial $50 an oz. move upwards in just the past few days. Is getting to $2000 an oz. this year likely? Maybe not but it sure is possible. If we do have some kind of economic "event" in the coming months that is perceived as bad, gold and silver could go up in price VERY quickly as more people pile into them and out of riskier assets, including US dollars, stocks, and bonds.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
863 Posts |
The world is still in such debt that sooner or later the bottom will fall out. We are only in the begining. A few major catastrophies (such as a large droubt, already in progress) mixed with a few other unfortunate events may have the power to really turn the tide.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
I agree that debt is a HUGE issue in terms of national and world economics. The levels of debt are now so large that they not only cannot be repaid but they will be unserviceable as well if interest rates return to even just historical norms, let alone rise to higher rates due to falling credit worthiness. As an example, consider that US short term rates are now at 0.25% and that the Fed is favoring short term debt instead of long term debt. If rates were to return to the historical average of 3.5-4%, that would mean a several fold increase in interest rate payments. Since the current interest payments are in the $450B per year area, a 4, 5, or 6 fold increase would be absolutely devastating. Of course, all this is a monetary phenomenon and all due to over-borrowing, under-earning, and inflating fiat currency. Long term, this bodes very well for PMs but not so well for our country. 
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