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Another coin dragged from another post to have its own dedicated topic? Well this one has been giving me woes. Originally, it had a lovely brown patina but very little detail - Oh, and some solid encrustments. Following Interweb advice, I soaked it in Orange Juice for a few hours, but it took off some of the very thin patina. So, I put it back in and stripped the lot (a lot of detail not seen on the patina came out!). Anyway, I have no idea what it is, who it's of and etc. Heres my notes on it as current: There's two busts, and I'm leaning towards both being female. At least 1 is female. Obverse reads: MHN (Bust) Then either OE or <theta><epsilon>. The remaining letters are unreadable. Reverse reads: *notqutiereadable**notquitereadable*H(missing letters)H (Bust)<epsilon><theta>ONCY*two unreadable* or: MNH (Bust) OE***** **H**H (Bust) OENCY** On the reverse, the first letter is almost certainly Theta, but may still be O. Pictures (before and after cockup then final):     |
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JW, its 18mm across and nearly 4mm thick at the height of the busts. weight is between 3 and 5 grams.
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I have a very similar coin to yours same size and weight that I haven't been able to ID either.   |
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Shall I bring in the heavy guns and send an email to a university classics department? Its quite clear that this coin is going to be difficult to ID.
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07/28/2012 1:10 pm
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Ill try an Ancient Greek dictionary, if that is no help, Ill try writing to the big cheeses in Coin IDing...when I find out who they are.
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I took the liberty of posting this over on forumancientcoins.com. They have some experts over there who may be able to help. We'll see if it produces any results.
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Awesome! Thanks muchly. Ill go bookmark that, hopefully they'll have someone who can ID it.
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Here is an answer I received on forumcoins: 41-60 AD - Semi-Autonomous AE15 of Pergamum - struck under the time of the Claudians obv: PEON CYNKLHTON (youthful draped bust of the Roman Senate right) rev: PEAN PWMHN (turreted and draped bust of Roma right) ref: RPC 2374, SNG BN Paris 1964 mint: Pergamum, Mysia (40-60 AD) 4.03gms, 15mm Rare Pergamum was not conquered by the Romans. In 133 B.C. Attalus III, its last king, bequeathed Pergamum to the Romans and this granted to the city and its inhabitants the continued benevolence of the new rulers (with the only exception being Marcus Antonius who deprived the Library of Pergamum of many of its volumes to replenish that of Alexandria, which had been damaged by Julius Caesar). Example:  |
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Well JWharper, I must hand it to you. Its very much a different coin, but it matches in the legend and style. Now how the bloody ecks did this get into a batch of 4th century uncleaned coins? Maybe it was the 11th coin he so graciously added! So is this a representation of the whole senate, or just a senator?
anyway, thats amazing, I'm going to order some more as a thanks to the guy.
Also, not that I will likely be selling (or be able to in its condition), how much is such a coin worth?
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How does this coin match up:  RPC 2373 Mysia, Pergamum AE 16. ca 40-60 AD. QEON CYNK LHTON, draped bust of the Senate right / QEAN RWMHN, turreted bust of Roma right, two tresses of hair down neck. BMC 207. |
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Or possibly this coin:  Lindgren III 277 Pergamum, Mysia, pseudo-autonomous issue. QEON CYNKLHTON, draped bust of Senate right / QEAN PWMHN, bust of Roma right, no tresses, crescent before. Lindgren III 277; SNGCop 446; BMC 213. |
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Very Similar hairstyle on the obverse, but reverse is much different. Very close, but its things like hair style on Roma and where the scarf is on (and correct me if I'm wrong) the roman senate.
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Obverse on the second is a lot closer in many ways. An amalgamation of the two obverses would produce a good match. The obverse on the other hand....wrong gender, me thinks.
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Posted 07/28/2012 12:04 pm
