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Help me with this.

2 Greek, 1 India

dim: 58 mm

3-Coins

3-Coins

Greek dim: 44 mm



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 Posted 07/29/2012  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First thoughts..


Early Roman Republic Cast Aes Graves = #1
Ptolemy #? AE Drachm? , Alexandria (this is hard to attribute with out exact weight)= #3
I have a friend who knows about Indian coins I know nothing = #2
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07/29/2012 5:40 pm
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The top coin looks Sicilian or Spanish with a janiform head of Zeus with the reverse of the prow of a galley right
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In my opinion the first is a fake,there's a strange letter under janus's neck like a Z B or % B,the reverse has a strange fake patina,so it seems to me a tourists fake,you can buy these coins in shops near archeological sites.
Even the greek coin is a fake for me.
About the indian I don't know this sort of coins.
wait for other opinions.
ps. the first is not greek but early roman copy,called aes grave.
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07/29/2012 5:46 pm
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The first coin I believe to be a Roman Republic, Anonymous, 209 - 208 BC, AE As, head of Janus, prow of galley on reverse.

The second coin I don't know.

The third looks like a Greek Ptolemy II Philadelphos coin.

Lastly, I don't claim these coins are authentic. Maybe someone else can. I have my doubts about some.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about the Aes Graves and other cast coinage, so I can't comment. I care not to comment on the Indian at all. The Ptolemy is in an exceptional state. The reverse is more often then not found to be a weak die strike. To see one with such a perfect reverse strike is not impossible but unlikely.

Nate
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07/29/2012 5:52 pm
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I repeat I'm sorry but in my opinion the first one and the greek are fakes....nearly 100%sure....under janus' neck there are 2 letters Z B or % B this is improbable on a genuine aes grave,but very probable on a tourist fake where they put some letters on the copy coins to make visible that's a copy for tourist's shops....even the green patina is typical of these sort of copy.....if you go to Rome there are a lot of shops with similar coins you can buy it for nearly 5/8 €.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think all of them are fakes. Not trying to be a jerk about it.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think most everyone has said it. They all look fake imho,
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Where did you get them? I'm not knowledgable enough to properly judge the authenticity, but id say the final greek one is fake. It looks too new and perfect and almost like its been bronzed.
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The Indian one is probably genuine, but it isn't ancient; it's 18th-19th century. Post a separate pic of it in the World Coin section so our Indian experts will find it.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nikola to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to everyone, a friend of me wants to sell them to me, but I am not in Greek coins.
Thanks again, and definitely I will not take them.
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