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jg86 Pillar of the Community Canada 686 Posts	Posted 07/28/2012 3:57 pm Hi All, I'm a Quarter collector, but I've been buying some Large Cents lately. I'm looking at this one here: www.ebay.com/itm/310417154968 Can anyone tell me if I'm nuts for thinking this should be Red rather than RB? I'm not an expert on the matter, but to me that looks as red as they come. Report this Post to the Staff

cwb1877 Pillar of the Community United States 1659 Posts	Posted 07/28/2012 4:08 pm While I know next to nothing about Canadian copper coins, I would imagine color is judged by the TPG's the same way they judge US copper coins. To me it looks like the copper red color is somewhat muted and has enough spots and brown in the fields to warrant the RB designation rather than full RD. In my opinion, NGC has judged the color correctly. Sometimes these RB coins can be had at a significant discount from their RD brethren, yet they look just as nice. Report this Post to the Staff
bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 07/28/2012 4:24 pm The Canadian grading services (ICCS and PCGS) will typically designate a coin as red at about 40% red color, or more. NGC seems to call things red at about 80% red color, or more. PCGS will not call a cent red unless it has at least 90% (and sometimes 95%) red. Like anything else, you can find exceptions, but in general that's how it shakes out. PCGS is also death on carbon spots, usually reflected by lowering the numerical grade. NGC and the Canadian TPG's seem more tolerant of carbon. Based on the photos, the coin you mentioned runs about 60% - 70% red IMO. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Literary Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Edited by bosox 07/28/2012 4:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tfred Pillar of the Community Canada 627 Posts	Posted 07/28/2012 4:36 pm ICCS would probably call it red, but I think the spots all over his face and in the field is what prompted it the RB designation. Those spots are a distraction in my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10460 Posts	Posted 07/29/2012 5:36 pm Photos can be deceptive. I would bet in hand, that the reverse of that coin is darker than anticipated... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
jg86 Pillar of the Community Canada 686 Posts	Posted 07/29/2012 10:04 pm Thanks guys. Still undecided whether I want to proceed with this Large Cent collection or not, so I'm going to pass on it for now. Report this Post to the Staff
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