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An Ez-Est Experiment

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A running topic made me wonder...

What will these look like after, from left to right, a 10 second dip, 30 seconds and one minute....



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ok results shortly.....
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wrong pic
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Superdave is likely gonna do the same, and as I cant find my pics I will have to redo as well. Be interesting to see how they all turn out....
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This is what they look like now....



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An-Ez-Est-Experiment

The three I will use, same format.
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OK, here we go....

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The minute long dip still has luster, though not fantastic. The 30 second doesn't look bad, and the ten is just fine.

Lets see if Superdave kicks in here...
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Even the 10 second dip is a long time. My longest dip times ever are 2-3 seconds.
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The other thread was titled "Conserve (NOT clean) a Kennedy" - why isn't EZ-est considered cleaning?
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The point being that a ten or even 30 second dip does not slag the coin. Of course if the tarnish is light you dont want to dip for long periods. Thats just silly. But heavy tarnish can require ten seconds or so, and it does not strip the coin to bullion like most believe it will.
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The point being that a ten or even 30 second dip does not slag the coin. Of course if the tarnish is light you dont want to dip for long periods. Thats just silly. But heavy tarnish can require ten seconds or so, and it does not strip the coin to bullion like most believe it will.


Don't dip for 10 seconds on a coin you plan to submit for grading. It will likely come back in a problem slab.

Strip the coin to bullion? Well, I wouldn't do this (long dip) to any coin that wasn't bullion to begin with.
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Don't dip for 10 seconds on a coin you plan to submit for grading. It will likely come back in a problem slab.


I have and it hasnt.

And you miss my point. It does NOT strip all the luster off the coin as you can clearly see.

Again, let me clarify. I am NOT saying dip all your coins for time one end, I am NOT. I am simply saying more than a couple seconds does NOT damage the coin to the extent one is led to believe.
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amida17, the spots on the three you dipped don't look like they were rinsed properly. I've never seen spotting like that unless it was from hard water that was air dried. I've used EZ-est since the early 1970's. The dealer that introduced me to it said to make sure you dab dry with a soft cloth while the surface is still wet. Do not wipe or rub.
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it was definetly hard water. Flawed technique on my part. None of the lustre seemed to disappear...I've only ever used this method on bullion. Myfear would be an acumulation of dip time when the coins pass from collector to dealer to collector and so forth.
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More and more dippings will dull the luster. Each time it is dipped a micro layer of metal is removed.
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I have and it hasnt.


And I've had over-dipped coins rejected and downgraded after 3-4 seconds of dipping.

And I missed your point because there isn't one here.
You are taking a mini-sample and then passing out bad advice.

Simple as that.
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I am simply saying more than a couple seconds does NOT damage the coin to the extent one is led to believe.


Try it on copper ans see what happens.
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