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New Member
Australia
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I am intending to start a collection of Middle Eastern coins of the early 20th century. Every denomination for the first year of a particular republic, Kingdom or colony. I am aiming for EF/XF and higher (and were still available). So far I'm looking for:
-1927 British Palestine
- Israel 1949 (only 1 rare 1948 coin)
-French Syria (total collection is 21 coins which I might consider, otherwise it's 1921-29 because not all denominations were minted in some dates)
- French Lebanon (similar numbers and dates as above)
- 1916 Egypt (British protectorate), although the 100 piastres is gold & 10k mintage I'm not liking my chances of getting that one.
After that it's the post ww2 kingdoms and republics installed by Britain, then the Gadaffi, the Assads, Saddam and other postcolonial republics. First year of all denominations.
can anyone recommend some dealers specialising in 20th century Middle East coins?
Palestine and Israel have already found a dealer.
Am I going to have trouble finding higher grades that haven't all been entombed by TPGs?
Lastly 'world coins' is more than a little broad for a category. Is there anything resembling consistency for grading? and how does one grade them unless you have a source of accurate examples of each grade to compare to? (much easier to come by Australian and US examples)
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Joel Anderson Coins recently had a small batch of the 1949 250 prutah .500 silver coin, in uncirculated. The silver issue was not placed in circulation. May still have some. J.A.C. is not a specialist dealer in Middle east coins, but weird fantasy issues of the micro nations. It's just that he happened to have a batch of the .500 silver 250 prutah of 1949.
Date 1949 mintage 44,125. KM# 15a. Not expensive to buy, about $15, I think.
There were also two copper nickel varieties, which were placed in circulation, with mintages of 1,496,000 and 524,000.
The Egyptian British Mandate 20 piastres is a harder coin to get than the earlier 20 qirsh. I also like the silver hexagonal 20 milemes (2 piastres), KM# 369, for it's curiousity value.
I have been collecting World coins for decades. For U.S. coins OK to use Sheldon for grading, but for World coins and from dealers in other than the U.S., the British adjectival grading system is perfectly OK, especially when the rest of the World dealers much more commonly use an adjectival grading system.
Much better if you learn to grade anything for yourself. Ultimately, it is your own opinion on which you base a decision to buy. You accept the dealer's grading or you or you reject it, and substite your own.
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New Member
 Australia
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Is British adjectival identical to Australian adjectival, Or some differences exist?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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New Member
United Kingdom
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I don't think you will have trouble finding high grade coins for most of these series - I have seen a number of Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese coins in high grade that are not encapsulated. How far geographically are going - are you including Turkey (in both Europe and Asia), Iraq, Iran and the various states of the Arabian penninsula?
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New Member
Australia
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I will include the Arabian peninsular, Iran, Iraq, Egypt. I might consider the greater Middle East like Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco but I'm not sure. I'm going for the first half of 20th century. I'm looking for 1927 Palestine, 100, 50 & 20 mils UNC (not slabbed). I have 1, 2, 5, 10 in UNC on order
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Valued Member
Israel
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Have you found what you are looking for?
What grades do you collect? If you still need help I may have what you are looking for, all 5.
Contact me if you need help.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You can try Stephan Album for higher grade modern. Look in his fixed price lists under modern or world coins.
Send me a want list I may have some too. I do mostly medieval Islamic coins and Ancients but I have some modern boxes gathering dust that might have something for your needs.
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Pillar of the Community
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I am a little biased by my collecting focus so I would recommend you add in the following Re-strike Maria Theresa Thaler varieties to your hunt list ( the reason being they were produced for supply to Aden, Arabian Peninsula, and surrounds). All can be found relatively cheaply although some are very hard to find now: Paris mint strikes 1st variety 1937-42(Rare), Second variety (Can be found in MS): 1949-1960 London mint 1936- 1961 Birmingham and Brussels mint strikes 1935- 55 These two varieties were produced for the banking house Samuel Montagu and co who after WWII supplied the coins to the Royal Air force who used them in Oman. The minting stopped when the Sultan of Oman decided he only wanted Royal Mint MTT supplied to Oman ( At which point the Royal Air force finally worked out The Royal Mint was striking the coin. The MTT was finally demonetized in 1971 in Oman. You may also want to look for Rome mint coins although only used for the invasion of Ethiopia Mussolini planned to use the coin in support of his conquest of the whole Arabian Peninsula( which of course never happened) Edited by austrokiwi
03/26/2013 02:28 am
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