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What Is S-4?

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Dealer description on a 1864 Indian cent says S-4? Is that a rarity?

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Shatsi: Are you sure that the dealer didn't mean G-4? G's and S's can look alike with poor handwriting. I've never heard of an S-4 except maybe there is one in another Country. G-4, 1864 Indians are plentiful.
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No its S-4 for sure. Its certified by PCGS as AU55 but the label doesn't say anything about S-4, its only in the dealer description. Online dealer.
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Hmmmm...well maybe someone else here will come through for you on your question and then we'll both learn something new!
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They're (Rick) Snow numbers for IHC and FE die varieties.
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could S-4 refer to the "Sheldon" number? I did a quick google with "S-4", "coins" and "rarity" in the search and the most common reference that seemed to come up for old coins was for the Sheldon scale.

There are two different scales associated with Dr. Sheldon. The first is the 70 point scale used for grading (see link at NGC for more information).

http://www.ngccoin.com/about/history.asp

Another one is a rarity scale and was originally designed for large cents, and is normally prefaced with an "R", not an "S".

http://www.coinresource.com/article..._numbers.htm

Hope this helps.
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This is what I found.

S# (S1-S9?)
Snow number (1992). Die variety - Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents, 1856-1909.

In that case, how rare is S-4? This coins is listed at $155 a little high price maybe due to rarity?
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