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 Posted 08/12/2012  2:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carole96 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello I am looking for some help on this coin I found it at my mums after she died all I no is that it was my great Nana's it is enamelled 1838 coin from house of Broomfield it has a certificate of authenticity. any help would be much appreciated thank-you.

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 Posted 08/12/2012  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you provide close-ups? Also, the diameter of the coin might help.

From the last picture it looks like a maundy coin, but a better image will help.
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sorry I cant do any better for pictures they come out blurry but the coin is 1.5cm.
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I hope this helps

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 Posted 08/12/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is a silver two pence, primarily used as Maundy money. the 1838 2d was also used as circulation coin in British Guyana and the West Indies.
Once a coin has been enamelled it is worth far more as jewellery than it will ever be as a coin again.
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is it worth me getting valued and putting on my home insurance or just putting back in my jewellery box as its something I would never wear.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Enamelled coins were fashionable in the mid to late 1800s. Traditional vitreous enamelling is a long and complicated process, involving firing powdered glass in a kiln. Each colour has to be fired separately, so items with multiple colours are harder to find. Exactly how they managed to enamel two sides of a coin at the same time is also a complicated and mysterious process.

The coin itself is usually ruined, as a collectable coin, in the process of making an enamelled coin. Much of the coin is carefully engraved away, to create a well for the molten enamel to sit in. Its only value is as a piece of jewellery. A little tiny piece like this isn't as impressive-looking as an enamelled halfcrown, but it does reflect the skill of the enameller in colouring the fine details.

It's value will also depend on whether it is authentic 1800s enamelling or a relatively modern reproduction using epoxy resin. A jeweller or antiques appraiser would probably have a better idea of market value than a coin dealer or coin collector. But I don't think we're talking hundreds of pounds, in any event.
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Exactly how they managed to enamel two sides of a coin at the same time is also a complicated and mysterious process.

Sap this got me thinking. Obviously trying to fire both sides at the same time would not work as each side would need to be fired separately.
Two possibilities came to mind.
The first side could be placed or clamped down to a large block of metal to absorb the heat whilst the top side was being fired; would have to be critical on the timing. Or perhaps it would be possible to fire the second side with a blowtorch instead of a kiln (whilst still being clamped to the large metal block) with heat being applied directly above the coin. I'm not sure whether this would work but glass has a fairly low melting point. Food for thought.
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