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Pillar of the Community
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I got this about a year ago from a very reputable source (One of the FORVM guys).. Attica, Athens c. 440-404 BC AR Tetradrachm 16.94g Obv. Archaic Helmeted Head of Athena with Archaic Eye, numerous Counterstamps Rev. Owl, Numerous Counterstamps / Test cuts NGC Certification ID 4100613-005 This coin looks like it was handeled by everyone, heavily worn, heavily counterstamped, test cut, test punched, I wonder how long this was really in circulation, I mean this thing looks like rich mans passport. I have looked everywhere for books on counterstamps, online sources and have found slim pickens. A recommendation on countermarks a catelog would be great if one exists. Any ideas on the places this coins been? Its use? How far did it travel. I assume it traveled pretty far and even crossed an ocean and made it through US customs, which in itself for just about anything is no small feat. I would be happy with any comments, observations, numis-tidbits, gawking or any other stuff people might or can add. Where else could I talk about a BLOB of metal and people care?  |
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Pillar of the Community
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ON the cheek maybe Aegina?....Bull?....then some kind of square.? Reverse seems to be just a circular test punch, and 2 slash cuts.
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Pillar of the Community
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Amazing coin. It's too bad the people placing the countermarks didn't recognize the future numismatic value of this coin.
I too would like info on counterstamps/marks if there is any out there to be had.
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If it could only talk, we would know where it had travelled. Interesting coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Cool! That one did a lot of travel outside Attica.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow, very interesting coin (I love it) ...
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Anyone got any counterstamp info?
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Countermarked Coin is a coin marked after being minted and while it is in circulation. Marking can mean that the coin is fit for circulation or has been revalued. The latter is the case for countries that experience rapid changes in inflation and need to quickly change currency valuations. Here is a link to a few countermarks (I merely skimmed it quickly, but it may tell you something useful?) ... http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...pos=0&sold=1 |
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@ Steve- Ah yes, I have seen this, I was wondering if anyone can tell me about where my counter stamps come from and when they where added to the coin. I might be grasping at straws. I remember asking about counter marks a few times back on FORVM and got little response...along with some other posts of numismatic interest, Alas I have tried again. I really appreciate you taking the time to look. What I really need is a book on ancient Greek counter stamps. I have this creeping feeling that one does not exist. I would love to see like a nice list with pictures and a brief description of each one. On the other hand I would also like to know if someone can recognize any of the ones on this Attic Standard. Again Thanks guys.
And if you guy haven't noticed I have enough coins I feel I don't know enough about to continue to produce fresh research topics for quite sometime.
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Nice coin, with plenty of history. I have collected Modern coins all my life, for years I saw that coin and wanted that one I almost bought it at a show I was doing about 5 or 6 yrs ago, the dealer was going to give it to me for $300, Wow that's a lot of money, well that same coin now probably $900 to 1000, snoz you lose...  |
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I figure I would get them while I am young and when I have been collecting for 40 years I would be filthy rich. On the other hand it is more likely that I will become so attached to my ancient tetradrachms that I would have to build a money bin and go diving in it like Scrooge McDuck.
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... is that poor coin in a slab?
Man, that's like keeping a proud ol' grizzly in a cage!!
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08/13/2012 12:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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 ...  ...Lets not talk about the slab...I have regrets in my life. |
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HELP! I need sources for counter marks on "Greek Coins"
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Sorry A-noob, but that link that I posted regarding countermarks (see above) is all I got ...
... ummm, I wonder if a trip to David Sear would help, or if he'd merely mention that your coin had a few countermarks?
Good luck
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If countermarks belonged to individual bankers/moneychangers, there is no real expectation that you will ever find out anything about them. I suspect that this coin received those marks in a region where it was just silver and being an owl was not considered enough to certify value. It would be nice to know where but I would not bet anyone knows.
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Posted 08/12/2012 11:32 pm
