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Is Anyone More Critical On Walkers After Seeing ASEs?

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 Posted 08/16/2012  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ASE's are cool but Walkers are the best coin ever in U.S. history. (IMO)
And really ASE'e are just a tribute to the original series
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 Posted 08/16/2012  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way to tip the scales muddler pointing out the reverse of the half, which is prominently more attractive.

I probably should have stated what I thought was obvious, the comparison of the obverse strike, particularly the left hand (the center of the obverse), which is almost always weak (along with the reverse Eagle's breast) on the Half versus the ASE.
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 Posted 08/16/2012  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The half dollar and the ASE tho similar are two completely different coins. With 70 years of difference of original introduction there have been great improvements in production from plainchant and die's to presses and with the larger size of the ASE there is more room for detail to be seen. The half dollar was meant to be circulated and I feel it wears well in that process. ASE's are made to stash and most all are in AU to BU in shape.

When the half dollar was made for collectors to stash there was much better detail similar to the ASE as seen on this example. The hand detail is clear on the proof version.

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 Posted 08/16/2012  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to beat the reverse of the Walking Liberty half. The original design is still nicer than the modern day knockoff.
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 Posted 08/16/2012  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mackwork, this is the highest grade Walker Half that I could find, 1939 MS68+ PCGS;

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There is separation between the thumb and the rest of the hand, but not much.
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 Posted 08/16/2012  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the eagle on the reverse of the Walker is preferable to the one on the ASE. But in a way I would also tend to feel that comparing a MS64 to MS69 of different coins is not a true and fair comparision of mintage techniques over more than 60 years of coinage progress. I feel that a more accurate comparision would be to compare coins of the same ratings.

A coin that is graded 64 has already been graded inferior to one that was judged to be 69. Furthermore while each coin is equally pleasant and has the same silver silver percentages I would be hard pressed to say that I prefer one over the other, each coin is different.

I do think that a better comparision would be judging similiar sized coins of the same grade. I feel that the eagle on an ASE is more pleasing than the eagle on either a Morgan or Peace dollar. There you can really see the advances in coin technology when looking at coins of similiar stature and grading.

But to get back to the original premise of this thread I do like them both. But I feel that the weight and crispness of an ungraded ASE is more pleasing and appreciated in my hand than that of the Walker half.
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 Posted 08/16/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
[quote] Gyrene7483

No doubt which is the better of the two reverses. The Walker's eagle is proud and strong with a don't mess with me attitude and the ASE is, well, hiding behind a shield with his wings back as if to say I give up. That's what I see, you may agree or disagree and that's your right. I don't own any ASE's. [\quote]

No doubt about it. The walker eagle is both proud and defiant looking and not surrendering.

I have both sets but by far my favorite is the Walker because of the proud lady and defiant eagle. I'll be very happy when I can complete the Walker set.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The hand on that 1939 MS68+ PCGS is better, but the hand on that 1940 proof is much clearer!
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 Posted 08/17/2012  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me its hard to beat the reverse design of the classic Walker half.
And I would think quality control, minting procedures and training of mint
employees is much better today than 65 years or more ago.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Captain Morgan I do agree. Everything does get better with age.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElmerFusterpuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an interesting question. I don't mind the ASE's, but I do prefer the Walkers more. Try to find one with a decent hand *AND* a well struck eagle's breast and left leg on the reverse. You will find that narrows your search even more. The dates I see where both sides are well struck are usually 1934, 1936, 1941 and 1942. With some searching, you can find some D and S mints that have that too, like the 33-S, 34-D and S, 36-S, 37-S and most D mints in the 40's. I'd love to find a 40-S, 41-S, 42-S, and a 44-S that have that full strike, but those might just be purple unicorns.
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 Posted 08/18/2012  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree I do like the reverse of the walker better. I love ASEs but I do feel the eagle on the reverse could have been more elaborate or imposing like on the walker. Either way both are great coins
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 Posted 08/18/2012  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the eagle design on the Walking Liberty half much better
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