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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I thought it would be interesting to see what everyone's predictions are for silver prices this fall and winter. There will be a lot going on with the election and already poor world economy. What are your predictions?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Either it falls or stays in the range it's been trading all summer. Let's say $22 as the low and $31 as the high.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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After the elections I think the financial dung will hit the fan. These artificially low metals prices can't last for ever.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
808 Posts |
The election results may temporarily muddy the waters, regardless of the outcome. I say we stay in our current trading range through next February followed by a sudden price rise back to the high $30s. Rhetoric has to give way to reality eventually.
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Valued Member
United States
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Silver will continue to drop for the rest of the year, negating all gains the market made for 2011.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it will trade sideways with a dip coming right after Thanksgiving. Money will flow from PM's, Energy, and Financials and into Consumer Staples and Toy Manufacturers during the holiday buying season. That is my prediction. When others where so convincingly calling for $100+ per oz by the end of (insert season here), I took the opposite approach and suggested sub $30 range. I was right with the exception of the dead cat bounce to $37 back in late February. I do however think it will start a slow climb back to the mid $30 range beginning in the first quarter of 2013 after we swear in which ever clown wins this years election. But like any other person prediction, where Silver will go is just a guess at best. There is only three right guesses at that, Up, Down, & Sideways, so everyone has a 33.333+% chance of being right.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sideways in a fairly narrow trading range looks like a little better odds to me than rising or falling much. This is an echo of the stock market. It seems to be holding its breath, waiting for some clarity out of Europe, the US election, Tax-Mageddon in January, etc. Once these issues have been sorted out, we may see silver rising into the high $30s to low $40s.
What we do know for sure is that: 1) the known silver mines are playing out and producing less silver per ton of ore dug and processed; 2) because of (1), the cost of producing silver is rising, especially in terms of diesel fuel which is also rising in price; and 3) silver in many applications is consumed in small amounts and dispersed such that it is not practical to recycle it. Because of these things, the longer term price of silver should have considerable upward pressure on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: after we swear in which ever clown wins this years election.  My thoughts, exactly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All signs point to down after black Friday....
Maybe more sideways movement. Someone seems to enjoy the profits from this 27 to 28 to 27 to 28 ride, lol....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Modest upticks until after the election, then off to the races.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Speaking of the election... what say y'all about the effect on PM prices due to who wins? Seems to me that we have radically different visions of America from the two camps that will very likely affect business, the markets, and the economy. While we do not know what the next 4 years holds in store for us, we do know what the past 4 years have been like. Has it been good enough that we want 4 more just like them?  
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Pillar of the Community
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God I hope not 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: what say y'all about the effect on PM prices due to who wins? I fully believe the rise in PMs after the last election was due to financial policies passed by the Legislative Branch before the Obama presidency started (remember that Obama the senator voted to pass the very changes he has bashed the former admin for imposing!), and the fact that people in the know realized Mr. Obama would continue to implement the same history- proven economic suicide policies. Research shows the state of the economy in the past cannot be attributed solely to the president in office. If a person takes the time to study the past economic conditions, graphing its highs and lows against which party controlled the majorities in the Legislative Branch, there is a definite pattern. The problematic economy always has come at times when the current mindset has been implemented. I believe PM markets will fluctuate with a general feeling of personal security. There are things about both people making the run for office that I do not like. However, I know I personally will feel a lot more secure, and am thinking those who are aware will also, if we do not have a person sitting in there who has a hired a self-proclaimed, active communist (Van Jones) for one of his personal advisers. Look into it - this is fact. If enough people actually are aware of this truth (like we should be), then there will be a psychological sigh of relief and possibly an easing of the doom and gloom mindset. Hence the PMs might settle if the current admin is not retained. I also think another factor causing the feeling of insecurity (hence PMs rising) back 4 years ago was b/c one party had the majority in both Houses and has their man sitting in the office of president. Hence a rubber stamp system resulted that pushed the historically-proven failed policies. So of course PMs rose. If a turnover and rubber stamp policy goes the other way, I think it is hard to really make a legit guess. I think enough people would feel relief, the economy would get better (if the new admin would implement time-proven strategies. The economy would have to follow historic patterns and improve - unless manipulated otherwise. But People are funny things to try to predict. Even if things did get better, maybe modern people, like those who went through the Great Depression, will remain penny pinchers and PM's would not go up. Or, maybe they would decide that since when the current economic terror struck, that PM's retained their value, then the recently re-employed-getting-paycheck-again people might start investing in PMs to make sure they do not lose so much again? It was a lot easier to predict 4 years ago! It was a given that PMs had to rise - and they did.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think there is one more good smack down left for Silver in 2012.
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting comments, Earle. I appreciate you taking the time to post them. My thoughts are... and they can be strange at times... that we have 2 possible scenarios available to us. #1: Obama wins in November and there is a huge sell off in the US stock market with rapidly rising PM prices. This initial shock wears off after a few months, however, and 6-8 months down the road we are back about where we are now. #2: Romney wins in November and there is a huge relief rally in the US stock market with rapidly rising stock prices and falling PM prices. Again, this lasts for a few months before sliding back to about where we are now. In either case, we see a lot of turbulence caused by the election results but it is temporary and does not last for more than about 8 months before returning to where were are now. I don't think that this is especially predictable at the moment and it could easily go either way. Perhaps the short version of this is that we will see a lot of temporary volatility that doesn't really change the future much at all. I would really like to be wrong about this but don't think that I am.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PMs prices will go as the economy goes. If things get better, we'll see a marked rise. If we go back into obvious technical recession, I feel silver will fall. Whoever wins the presidency will not make a great deal of difference, except perhaps short term.
The problem that neither party ever seems to talk about: Manufacturing has been gutted in this country. We've become a nation of predominately service sector jobs. China and India employ hundreds of millions for a few dollars an hour doing the manufacturing jobs that unskilled laborers once did here, right out of high school.
How will any president fix that imbalance? Perhaps he can place tariffs on every product entering American ports from foreign shores? Protectionism at its finest, if you will. Would it help matters or simply make things worse? IDK? Would a president have the cajones to tax the lifeblood out of major industry leaders who have taken their factories from US cities and rebuilt them in third world countries, forcing them to reconsider their options? How would that sort of policy effect PM prices? Same answer: wish I knew.
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