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1860 Half Penny

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 Posted 08/15/2012  07:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add swisher 17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looking through my pennies I brought back from England, I found this 1860 Half Penny, what would be the grade and value of this coin.

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Looks like VF+, worth 17 dollars. Unless it's the rare copper version, then it's worth 2000 dollars. Doesn't look like the copper version to me, looks like the common bronze.
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Thanks for the information.

It weight is 5.8 grams will have to do some checking.
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Copper is 28mm and weighs 9.45 grams.

Bronze is 26mm and weighs 5.69 grams.
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Just wondering what happened to the dots around the edge of the reverse?
Some appear to be almost missing?
And yet there appears to be very good detail to the boat and shield; strange.
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Just wondering what happened to the dots around the edge of the reverse?
Some appear to be almost missing?
And yet there appears to be very good detail to the boat and shield; strange.
Mike.


Not very strange at all, if you compare with this coin that is closer to mint state. You can see that it was minted that way. This was the first year of the size and alloy change of the half penny.

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Thanks for your comment Wayforwarded; what's the reason, poor dies or unstable metal?
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It looks to me like improperly maintained or overused dies. As the imperfections in the coin I posted aren't from circulation, the coin was minted as such.
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Thanks; rather strange as it appears to only affect the edges.
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If you look at the background of my picture post, there's a crack eroded in the die above the knee and above the ship there's a dent.

When the die has been overused eventually erosion and cracks form. Also from the pressure of pressing numerous coins small bits of metal are melted to the die which will cause the dents.
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Thanks for the explanation; it makes sense to me now.
I guess techniques have improved over the last century and a half as most modern British currency appears almost perfect these days.
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