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New Member
United States
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I can't decide if I want to spend my money on ebay or at collector's alliance INC. On ebay, I can select my grade, but it is pricier. At Collector's Alliance, inc, I can spend a lot less for minted coins, but is it more likely that I would get an unappealing grade even though it is minted? Is this the same with the U.S. Mint? I also ask this, because I want a Philadelphia and Denver set of the State Quarters, and I really want a set filled with grades from MS66-68 just so it's nicer than all my friends :D!
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 I've never heard of Collectors Alliance -- but if you are serious about getting the best possible coins, I really think you will have to go find them at coin stores and coin shows. It's time consuming but you will know exactly what you're paying for when you make a purchase. But I'm no expert so hang on and get some more opinions. Better yet, stick around, and after you have enough posts you can post a wish list.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 I would stick with ebay. I ordered once from collectors alliance and never again. Very overpriced. ebay has over priced items too but you can get good deals and even from time to time underpriced items. And like you said you can control what you get. Pretty much anything you find on the CA website you can find elsewhere for less money especially graded coins Other than the 1999 and probably 2000 most of those State Quarters graded in those grades can be found for around 30 dollars or less. Or you could just buy the uncirculated mint sets and break them out
Edited by basebal21 08/23/2012 12:08 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If your friends don't have slabbed or extremely high quality coins you could probably look at mint sets and pull out gemmy ones for a much better price. If you do go with slabs stick with the biggies like NGC and PCGS or you might not get the quality you pay for. Some of the MS-66 and 67 states issues can be had very cheaply and are probably a good value now.
Good luck.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Depending on your age, experiences with ebay, knowledge of coins, I'd stay far, far away from ebay. Way to many things go wrong there for those not aware of what is what. And even then, just to many problems. I have no idea of what a Collectors Alliance, Inc. is or how they operate. I would suggest you look into coin shows as a starter. Visit as many coin stores as you can and just look, don't buy until you know what your doing. Do searches on the internet for coin dealers and, again, don't rush into buying, but look, learn and be carefull. If you stick around here and keep asking questions, you may well find places to go for coins that are much cheaper and safer than ebay. Not sure how well it would work but you could also try the Search tab at the top for coin dealers.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I will reiterate what just_carl advised, ebay is not for the novice collector of coins. Far too many people selling coins which are over graded, not even graded, overpriced and listed with photos that don't show you what you are actually getting. With a little effort you can find reputable coin dealers with whom you can purchase the coins you seek. Ed ANA LM-3175
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Bedrock of the Community
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Most of the big reputable coin dealers have ebay stores as well. Theres some bad dealers on there but a lot of good ones as well. Could always check out the ebay threads for good dealers on there. Just remember if it seems to good to be true it is
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks everybody for their help. I'm sticking with the mint, and will check out a few stores, and eventually I will progress my way to E-bay as I learn! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just other tidbit about ebay, the inventory of the big shops on there is not always the same on ebay as it is their normal website. LC Coins for example has different things listed on the two sites while others may have the same things listed just waiting to see where itll sell first. In such cases their real website can sometimes be cheaper than the ebay listing without the added fees
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New Member
United States
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Interesting question. I'm dealing with the same issue myself. I've found the coins I got on ebay weren't exactly what I was expecting. Some sellers put GREAT pictures on the site for a good representation, others don't. I am surprised at the difference of what a google search shows for the price of a 1939-D Jefferson nickel, and what they are selling for on ebay. ebay seems high, and many say "uncirculated" but then the hair looks like a little wear or steps have wear. I'm not an expert, so I'm leery to spend a lot of money on ebay. I guess I'll have to find some local dealer in San Diego for guidance. Now that I've spent a considerable sum on ebay I guess it's time to get a lot more educated,
Edited by vela123321 08/24/2012 09:44 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Where to buy your coins is one of those timeless questions that everyone faces irregardless of your experience level. The first thing you must realize that there really is no safe place for a novice to buy coins at a fair price. THere are good and bad in ebay, coin shops and coin shops. All sellers have to seek a profit and will prey on the unknowledgable novice. Your best method of prevention is to arm yourself with knowledge. Buy a Red Book and read up on the series you want to collect. Look as thouands of coins online and in person before you spend any money. Knowledge is the best way to defend yourself from those looking to take advantage of your inexperience. There are swindlers at all points of sale ..never forget this.
Edited by Andrew289 08/24/2012 08:02 am
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Valued Member
United States
470 Posts |
SO often we see posts here asking ..how did I do? did I pay to much? I have to laugh at those because of the old saying that a fool and his money are soon parted. Would you buy a car without knowing what you are buying? would you buy an engagement ring without doing research? would you let a stranger babysit your child without checking references? Hopefully the answer is no.
Why do you spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on coins when you don't know what they are worth? It's rediculous to the point of being funny but it's really just sad. I feel for those going in blind and tossing away money they could use for their family. It's just pure waste.
But we all have free will and make our own choices. SO, man up and don't waste your money of shiny objects or worse ..coins in plastic that have a MS or PF number on them. DOn't waste your money on a 70 when a 69 looks the same to the naked eye and you will still be able to buy groceries. I know this is going in one ear and out the other of many who have more money than sense ..but these folks will be a continued source of ammusement to the forum members who bust a gut laughing when the next How did I do post is made.
I look forward to future entertainment value...bring it on.
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Valued Member
United States
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Oh ..sorry I thought you were investing in coins but now I see you just want a set of State Quarters for bragging rights. From the get go you must realized that it costs more to slab a State Quarter than the coin is actually worth so right off the bat, you will over pay for a slabbed set. Realizing this ..buy at will where ever you find the cheapest with the number on the paper in the plastic you want. These won't appreciate much at all ..so all that you are paying for is the "my sets better than your set" aura of superiority.
Edited by Andrew289 08/24/2012 08:59 am
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New Member
United States
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Don't be sorry Andrew289, there are others out here reading this post too with other coin targets. Is the RedBook reliable? It seems the items I watch on ebay sell for more than my RedBook listing.?. Does that mean ebay buyers usually overpay? Is the RedBook value substantially different than the prices in the online PGCS $14 dollar a month database? I now won't buy a coin on ebay that doesn't have a perfectly clean photo to see front and back of the coin. I also like to look at my grading book, take a guess at wat I think the value is, and then compare after the auction closes. It's just takes a lot of patients! I also think maybe there is more of a chance to get in an auction with novices who drive the price up on modern quarters more than on something like early full cents. I dont like "buy it now" listings. I've only done one "buy it now" for a lower grade 1773 Virginia halfpenny because I wanted a colonial coin for my collection, but I wasn't willing to spend a lot for the coin. The 2010 RedBook showed $50 and I spent $65. With my limited time (job and 2young kids) I was okay with this. Thanks again to the poster and all the replies. Very helpful. Anyway... As long as we're having fun! I don't think I would ever post a coin and ask "did I get a good deal" but maybe someday I'll post a couple of "look at this one I know I paid too much for!"
Edited by vela123321 08/24/2012 10:09 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Andrew289; Mint state states quarters do not exist in MS-70 though there are a few in MS-69. If you ever looked at an MS-69 you'd see a few things. First off you'd see it was far nicer than any states coin you've ever seen before. Second you'd quickly come to find that there are not a lot of MS-68's either. Several of the things you said simply are not true. Most importantly though is the implication that the coins have no value and nowhere is this more wrong than at the MS-66 and 67 level. These coins in slabs often sell for only a few dollars which is a fraction of the grading charge. They are "mistakes", people believed they would grade higher but they didn't so they sell on the market. Since demand is weak they are less than grading fees yet will generally at least be choice for their grade. The highest grade states coin bring a lot of money but compared to the population they could be the biggest bargains out there. People have the idea that modern coins are cheap because they are common but nothing could be further from the truth. There are hundreds of US a world coins that I've sought for 36 years now and have been unable to find. Some of these coins have gone straight through the roof in the last few years because others are now seeking them as well. Sure, something like a "common" 1950-E E German 10p now lists for $1300 instead of 50c but there are still a lot of 50c coins out there that can't be found. In my opinion some of the best bargains are US coins and the pricing structure will have to change when people start collecting these someday. I agree with you that investing in coins is a losing proposition. I believe this appliers to all coins. Collectors almost always do better because they learn more and have fun doing it. It's knowledge that is more likely to lead to profit and enjoyment. I also agree that someone should know what he's doing before spending a lot of money on something he doesn't understand.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Edited by cladking 08/24/2012 11:53 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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1. Purchase a few year old Red Book by Whitman Publishing. About a 3 or 4 year old one would have more realiztic prices. 2. The Red Book is great for information but due to so many coins in the USA, that book too is limited for all coins.' 3. ebay is getting more and more full of counterfeits, fakes, junk, poor photos, lost in mail, fees for almost everything and then you still don't get what you wanted. 4. Be carefull of ebay feedback stuff. When my Son was in college he said the kids sold all sorts of garbage on ebay. They all got together and sent in fantastic great feedbacks for each other. 5. Discuss any coins you are planning on buying with members of this forum. Can't go wrong with lots of free advice. 6. Be carefull of gradings. Even from a so called reliable TPGS. Remember that those coins are graded by people and people make errors. 7. Seldom believe some coin store person saying a coin is MS-66. They sometimes know as much or less than you. 8. Check for coin shows and/or coin clubs in your area. 9. Send any unused money to me. Then I can buy all the coins you couldn't afford. 
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