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Still trying to determine. This is not a brass restrike of those made after the originals. Under a loupe, sure looks like yellow brass to me. Anyway, thought I'd share. Sellers pics. I'll try to get my own when I get home from work.   swcoin.ecrater.com
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My first guess would be copper, from the color. But I have no idea. Really cool though!
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Thanks.
Under a loupe, the edges have a brass yellow gleam in spots. Man, I'm really intrigued now!
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Agree the rings are not the narrow ones of most of the "New Haven" "restrikes," but some had wide rings (with AMERICAN CONGRESS on the band, and state names on the rings). One, 101-BB, was struck in brass and silver. It has a central eye in the middle of the band, and radial lines from the band to the rings. The obverse has no date, no motto, and no FUGIO. Yours looks like it may have spent time in the ground, though. The Newman text doesn't seem to describe any off-metal strikes of the original Fugios, even among the Obverse-1 pattern coins, but I'll keep looking; it's not the most user-friendly treatise.
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Ha, the 101-BB would be awesome but, I'm not holding my breath.
I agree, trademarks of a metal detector find.
I'm continuing my research as well Philadelphian, thanks :-)
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Here is a 104-FF in brass. It was also made in yellow copper.   swcoin.ecrater.com
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Fun! I don't think it gets you any closer to identifying your coin, but I guess that's not why you posted the link. Does cast more doubt on those expert opinions that the Fugio coppers didn't see much circulation. Only a common coin, close to hand, would be put to a use like this.
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Back to your brass monkey (that funky monkey). Could you post some closeups of the design elements? Something that'll make me stop believing I see lettering on the rings, perhaps? Also, Newman says the "yellow copper" of the restrikes was actually a "poorly mixed brass."
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Will do. I leave work at 1:30 EST. If your like me, you will be up :)
If you are not, the pics will be there for you tomorrow ;)
I figured the term "yellow copper" may have been slightly misleading.
Speaking of yellow brass Colonial type coins, I do have, and have yet to post, an Evasion copper of George II in yellow brass (I think) or bronze. I've read where they would use whatever metals they had to make these including stealing church bells!
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Quote:In my research, I came across this http://johnmaciver.tripod.com/id4.html That has got to be one of the most incredible things I believe I have ever seen. It shows how everyone back then would take normal everyday things and make tools they needed out of them to get a job done. I see allot of Large Cents with the square holes in them where when the people who built their homes would nail them to the top of the door for good luck. I think its awesome to see things like this especially coins made into tools like the one you posted, even though it kills me as a coin collector I believe the history of the tool it was made into makes it super cool |
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He wants $750 for it. Don't think I haven't thought about it. I do think $750 is a little steep...even for something as AWESOME and rare as this. Had it not been for the PMD, you were probably looking at a solid AU coin. swcoin.ecrater.com
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philadelphian, I never got a chance to photograph...yet. I can tell you this. In natural light, you can clearly see brassy yellow streaks throughout the coins surfaces. I'm wondering if it's an alloy issue of some kind or, is it actually struck on a brass planchet? I guess the only way to find out would be to cut it in half  swcoin.ecrater.com
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So you think it's coated or plated with something? You think there isn't enough exposed surface for that X-ray fluoroscopy/spectroscopy business? Of course, it must be said, looks like somebody tried and failed to make a hole. Finish the job, and take out a plug!
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