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I found one of these a while ago it's condition is really good for the age due to being protected by hard clay. I'm unsure of it's value but it's a cool coin to me because it was used in the colonies.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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 I do like the old style George pennies...a lot nicer and certainly more substantial than todays pennies. |
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Just to clarify: it won't be a "penny". Copper pennies didn't exist until the "cartwheels" of 1797. A British copper coin of 1753 will be either a halfpenny or a farthing.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It won't be a farthing as none were minted in 1753.
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New Member
 United States
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Okay so it's not a penny. Well not a whole one at least. Are these coins common? If it's not worth anything I'm gonna make a necklace out of it.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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@AdirondackEagle
"If it's not worth anything I'm gonna make a necklace out of it."
Aaaarggh! [shudders]
How about some pics? Include weight and diameter.Then we can fully ID your coin and possibly value it.
If you cannot post pics, list the inscriptions, and which way does the king look?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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No! Never, but NEVER, do that to a coin. Make a fake one if you want jewellery. If you can make it so without harming the coin, so as it can easily be removed, then fine. But its sad to find old coins soldered into a mount.
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New Member
United States
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I didn't plan on doing any harm to the coin by soldering it. I have necklaces that allow the coin to lock in place inside of a ring or a 4 clasp hold. I'll try to get pics up soon.
Here is a description. The King faces left and on the left side of the king on the front of the coin is the inscription GEORGIVS above his head are two lines and on the kings right is the inscription REX. On the obverse is what appears to be a lady centaur holding a staff. On the ladies left is the inscription BRITAN. On the ladies right is the inscription NIA. Below the lady on the bottom the date reads 1753.
The coin inscriptions are still very readable and the images on the front and the obverse are still very sharp. It is about the size of a quarter.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I have one of these from 1743, in superb condition by some miracle :)
The lady on the back I not a centaur, that is Brittania sitting on a shield with trident. The Romans invented this woman as the physical personification of our country and until 2008 she still appeared almost identical on the reverse of the 50 pence piece.
So we know it is a George the second half-penny... It is worth something in the region of £30-£100 condition dependant.
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United States
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So it's worth about a 100$ maybe a little more, maybe a little less. Even if I got that, I wouldn't even have half the money to buy a sovereign. I might as well hold on to it.
I must say that your countries currency is quite beautiful hence the sovereign being my unicorn. That is to say the coin I would like to find the most. How common were sovereigns in the early wars and up? Do I have any chance of finding one? Is there anything you can tell me from the British side of the story concerning the early wars that may be helpful. The road I live on is named after one of the most Famous British Generals and there was an old road that ran through here. I actually live in between two strategic locations the hill above me being a British battery.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Here is a good short history of the guinea/sovereign: http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/sov.htmlBeing gold I would think hardly any were just lost, unlike copper coins. Ordinary people would hardly ever see one, let alone handle it. To put it in context, just after WW2 my dad was earning £2 a week for semi-skilled work. Losing a sovereign would be like losing a £100 note today ( £100 does not actually exist ). Sovereigns stopped being in normal circulation at the start of WW1, when they were replaced by paper money, so the actual value would have been even more! |
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Yes, the coins were lovely, I'm not an advocate of the shield series, but I cant wait for the next monarch to sort it out. Finally another bust in circulation...
And Britannia, a centaur? Dont say that to a monarchist!
I would love a picture of it, it is a half pence. Take note as to how deeply struck it is, I know the 1799 ha'penny was struck very deep, so ol Brit's *ahem* you know whats, tended to wear quicker than the rest of the coin, causing some embarrassing highlights. If the coin is in good condition, take note of how George is trying to be as roman as possible.
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United Kingdom
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Just one clarification. The Bank of England does not currently issue £100 notes, but they are issued by the two of the Northern Ireland banks and all three of Scotlands, so the most definitely do exist.
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United States
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I meant no disrespect to Britannia. I was simply doing my best to describe what I saw. I am not British and was not familiar with Britannia although I have seen her image on other British coins before. It's depressing to think that there may not be a lost sovereign around because I really was hoping to find one. I'm not giving up yet although I'll have to try to forget about the aforementioned odds of finding one if I am to keep my hopes up. Wish me luck.
I should be able to upload a picture of it soon. It's ironic that it was said that losing a sovereign would of been like losing a 100 pound note as this coin is probably worth about that now.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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If it has been in the ground for 250 years I doubt it will be worth more than a couple of quid.I have never seen decent copper from the ground.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I guess that is a 1753 George 11 halfpenny, which if it is, would weigh 10 grammes, and have a diameter of around 29mm.
These things can be rather pricey in superior grades.
'Coincraft' 1998 lists them:
F 8 Pounds,
VF 30 pounds,
EF 120 Pounds.
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