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Valued Member
United States
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I see Ms-65 Or MS-66. your grade opinion? thanks   |
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Valued Member
Canada
138 Posts |
Maybe a 64. I don't like some of the dings on the face. As well, the feathers on the eagle could be a tiny bit sharper to make it a 65 to me.
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
In an SGS holder it would be MS66.  In the real world it's AU55 at best and probably a details grade as it appears to have been cleaned. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6384 Posts |
I don't think it's even genuine. The shape of the 6 in the date is wrong and both 8's appear to lean to the right which is not normal. The mintmark is either misshapen or has been damaged.
The 1886-O is another Morgan date that's common in circulated grade but very expensive in MS. If a counterfeiter can pass a fake as a genuine MS coin the profit potential is high. As stated by the other posters this example however doesn't qualify as mint state even if it is real.
You should check it with a magnet and verify the weight. A real coin in AU grade will be close to 26.7 grams.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Looks like AU Details - cleaned.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1370 Posts |
I see AU 53 on this one possibly cleaned
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Valued Member
 United States
82 Posts |
ok. I used photo grading from pcgs.com high points eyebrow, tip of hat and bottom hair match and color to. witch grade you used? thanks Au details eyebrow high point are different. silver Morgan dollar face ding bank bags marks don't count for grading purpose. feathers match PCGS photo-grading. pcgs photo-grading silver Morgan dollar Ms-66 High point match exactly with this coin. no Au coin have same high points to this coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1370 Posts |
here's a photo comparison of a top pop pcgs MS 65 86-O. There is a substantial difference between this coin and the pictures of the coin you have posted. However if you feel your coin is equivalent to a MS coin you should send it off to have it professionally graded. A MS 65 example of this date is a $150,000 coin. I don't see this making that grade....still stuck at an AU 53 which would make it roughly $75 to $100.  |
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 United States
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Quote: silver Morgan dollar face ding bank bags marks don't count for grading purpose. Yes, they do. Quote:feathers match PCGS photo-grading. pcgs photo-grading silver Morgan dollar Ms-66 High point match exactly with this coin. No, they don't. Quote:
no Au coin have same high points to this coin. That's not true, either. It is probably better for you to stop buying Morgans until you understand why I say these things. |
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Valued Member
United States
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ms-65 high points are different that ms-66 high points, used pcgs photo-grading it has all the grades. that photo was from a sale in pcgs is not the same.
best way to see the difference is by flip on the photo fast and concentrate only on the eyebrow, ears hair hat or chest. wear in the ear hair same as ms-66. look ms-65 ears wear and compare to ear wear of the ms-66.
Is Not The Same high points check pcgs. more feedback please.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Listen with all due respect you are getting feedback from individuals who have been collecting coins for all their lives, however it seems you don't like the answers you are getting. The best way to remedy this is to send the coin off to a professional grading service such as pcgs or ngc. They will realize you the most return if the coin does come back as a MS coin. However if it does not you are out the cost of grading on a coin that doesn't justify the cost to slab
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United States
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Quote:ms-65 high points are different that ms-66 high points, used pcgs photo-grading it has all the grades. that photo was from a sale in pcgs is not the same. best way to see the difference is by flip on the photo fast and concentrate only on the eyebrow, ears hair hat or chest. wear in the ear hair same as ms-66. look ms-65 ears wear and compare to ear wear of the ms-66. Is Not The Same high points check pcgs. more feedback ple ASE You are so completely wrong about grading, and so unwilling to listen to sound advice, that after this post I am washing my hands of you. The strength of strike - therefore the high points - is a very minor part of grading Morgans until you exceed MS66. Up to that point, marks on the coin are the paramount. Strike quality varies so widely between individual mints and dies that it must be taken into account when grading any Morgan - this is why it's so important to understand precisely the differences between strike quality and wear, which you are not seeing. You may be able to stab at grading from photographs, but you learn to grade from holding coins in your hand. I don't need Photograde. I know how to grade for myself. What's this one grade?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU-53 details, cleaned. Not even close to Mint State. The coin has rub all over the high points.
An MS-66 coin, by contrast, will have blazing mint luster (your coin has no cartwheel luster), no rub on the high points (your coin shows wear on all high points), and relatively few bag marks (your coin has many)
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 However, I would grade it AU-50 Details. |
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Posted 08/29/2012 11:03 am
