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Error 2004 ASE

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 Posted 03/11/2007  3:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add negative1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I am still a new guy here but I need some help. Have any of you seen an eagle like this? What do you think caused this error?

The lady is pointing at the error...

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.ph...7&thecat=500

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.ph...7&thecat=500

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.ph...7&thecat=500

Thanks

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 Posted 03/11/2007  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know. We have a number of error collectors here, though, who should be able to give you an idea. That's a really nice error coin!
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 Posted 03/11/2007  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating. Normally, I'd dismiss that as post-mint damage, but the marks are suspiciously spaced like reeds. How does the spacing of the marks compare, in size and location, to the existing reeds on the coin?
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 Posted 03/11/2007  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add negative1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They line up real nice...

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.ph...rt=1&thecat=

Same location on both sides also.

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 Posted 03/11/2007  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That last picture they don't line up to good. Real close though. Looks like the were gripped with something with small teeth. The grooves look to be deeper at one end and get shallower as it moves to the other end.
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 Posted 03/11/2007  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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That last picture they don't line up to good


I agree. Almost looks like the difference from Metric to English thread pitch. The top "error" reeds actually have bigger spacing than the edge reeds. Not sure how that would happen?
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 Posted 03/12/2007  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum! That is a really cool error coin! What did you pay for it?
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 Posted 03/12/2007  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add negative1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it was $10.50.

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 Posted 03/13/2007  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if I may guess;

I think the marks are on the same part of the circumference and they are as if this one got caught between the reeder wheel and another ASE, if that's the case, the other coin has a bigger error (or is sent to the melting pot:)

This is what I think happened :
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 Posted 03/14/2007  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great drawing, RenaL, but I'm having trouble seeing how that would put these marks on both obverse and reverse?
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The coin negative1 has is the one standing vertical (we can see that one as a rectangular) and the other coin that already has the reeds can be seen as a full circle.
When the reed-making wheels (or whatever they're called) try to turn, the vertical coin gets these marks.

That of course would be true assuming that a reeded ASE is hard enough to work as the counterpart. That could be the reason why the marks on both sides aren't identical.

Of course this is all my theory, probably there are countless cogs and stuff at the mint that could make those marks.
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 Posted 03/14/2007  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks...now I get it...
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 Posted 03/17/2007  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great theory, but that isn't how they put the reeding on an ASE. The reeding comes from the collar when the coin is struck.

No that just looks like someone squeezed the edge in a vise or some other tool with gripping jaws. Just post mint damage. In the first picture the small part sticking out past the circumferance of the coin in the bottom one or two marks proves that it had to have occurred after the coin was struck. At the time of strike when the dies are together nothing could extend out past the rim, and that mark does. So it had to happen after the strike.
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 Posted 03/18/2007  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen a edge processing mechanism then I thought reeding was similar.

If the reeding is done while striking the ASE, my theory is busted :)
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 Posted 03/19/2007  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The real question is, what kind of value does this coin have? I have never seen something like this.
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 Posted 03/19/2007  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, Glad to see you back with us Guido
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