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Fujifilm Finepix S5000 Picture Suggestions-Help!

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Hi,
I took these pics with the above camera. Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 09/14/2012  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes, that's your name.

Looks like you're going to get pretty good results from your camera. First, we have to set you up so that your camera is facing directly downward, onto a horizontal coin laying flat. That is the *only* way you will be able to achieve quality, repeatable results (unless your name is DVCollector). Is this possible?
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How would you set it up so that it is facing downwards without getting a blurry picture? In the shots above the camera is on a tripod.
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Your tripod should have the ability to point straight downward. Use the corner of a table with the legs of the tripod arranged around it; this should allow you to put the coin flat on the table and still get it onto the sensor. Before the coin, stick a small mirror in that place, and adjust the camera until the lens reflection is in the exact center of what you see. That will ensure the coin and the camera are perfectly parallel.
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You could also pick up a "copy table". Small copy tables are actually stands that sit on a table. They usually have an indexed base (grid lines cut into the base), a vertical post, and a mounting fastener (just like a tripod or omnipod) for the camera. It allows you to shoot straight down. Many also come with a detachable light bar. I picked one up for about 80 bucks years ago. You might be able to get a used table cheaper. The newer tables and dedicated lighting are a little pricey but if you find a camera club or a photography supply house, prices get better. Google "Copy Tables".

Copy tables really improve your coin photos because they allow you to achieve the proper angle and are more steady than a small tripod. Just a suggestion.
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Hi all,
Thats cool! Didn't know my tripod could do that! Got it set up facing downward, any other suggestions?
Thanks!
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I'll check around for a copy table next chance I get.
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OK. We have to find out what the optimal height of your camera over the coin is. Yours is a long-zoom camera, whose minimum focusing distance is 100mm/4" in Macro mode. That's as close as you can get to a coin, and only then if you're zoomed all the way out. All the zoom does is effectively convince the camera sensor that it's closer to the subject, so as you zoom in you're "closer" to the coin regardless of how far away the camera is.

Your camera has a particularly long focusing distance at maximum zoom - if you're zoomed all the way in, you have to be 2m from what you're focusing on. So, I'm guessing the sweet spot for you will be more "zoomed all/almost all of the way out". The reason this is a factor is, the farther away you can get from the coin, the easier your lighting will be to do right. If you can get lighting you like on a coin at a distance of 100mm, by all means use it that way. If not, you're going to gradually - step by step - physically move the camera farther away, while also zooming in a little bit, until you can find a compromise you like.

If this sounds labor-intensive, you're seeing things correctly. You're making this camera do something it wasn't really made for.

It may be best for you to start close to the coin (let's call it 125mm just to be safe, zoomed all the way out) and accept what lighting you can bring, while you learn your camera's manual functions. And you're going to need to learn those functions to get best results.

For the moment don't worry about the final image size. Set it for the largest/finest possible image, of course. For your camera, that will be 2048x1536; it has a "larger" setting but that's all in-camera - it arbitrarily adds pixels to get the larger size and that will do nothing but screw up your shot.

For now, use Auto exposure mode, Auto white balance, Spot metering and consider using the timed shutter. In your case, that's only a 10-second delay (most cameras have 2 seconds also) so the wait will be a pain but it will eliminate the possibility of your hands introducing shake. You may not need to worry about that; some of us drink less coffee than I do.

All we want right now is to get a nice sharp focus. We'll work on the rest later.
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Okay, sounds good! I'll try it out and get back to you!
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 Posted 09/17/2012  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some some pictures I took at different distances, farther away are cropped and zoomed in.

In order from closest to farthest:



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In my opinion the closer pictures show the most detail.
What do you think?

Oh, I think I forgot to mention before that I have a macro lens added on to the camera.

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 Posted 09/23/2012  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone have some suggestions?
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