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While surfing ebay I noticed a coin that is described as being from Marcel Jungfleisch's collection. I am generally famiiar with the type and it doesn't seem all that great of a specimen. It's a little rough, off center and missing details. It's priced at about $50, pretty much 5 times the price I would be willing to pay. There might very well be something amazing about the coin that I am just not seeing. There is no mention of documents supporting the coins recent past. It makes me scratch my head. What do you all think, does previous ownership of a coin in any way alter your idea of what a coin is worth? |
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Pillar of the Community
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I know nothing about Marcel Jungfleisch or his collection, but the provenance of a coin can make a slight difference in the value of the coin. If I know where a coin has come from, who has owned it, I might be willing to pay for that knowledge.
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If it was from a well know and respected collector than it would effect the value.
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I purchased a denarius of Lucius Verus a while back from Manfra Tordella & Brookes in NYC that was part of the collection of Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle (author of the Sherlock Holmes stories) Although I feel I didn't really pay anything extra for it because of it I still hold onto the documentation that says it was from his collection. He also had the reverse of the coin improperly attributed. He had it as Armenia seated on ground and it was actually Parthia.
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part of the collection of Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle You know, I don't go out seeking autographs or the like, but to own something that was once owned by (fill in name of famous/important person) means something to me and does add some value. Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle? Are you kidding me? What a story that makes. |
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 What he said! Guess that answers that question. They're still looking for D. B. Cooper's money. Of course he never really "owned" the money.  |
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I recently bought a coin of Gallienus that was an upgrade of my previous exact duplicate but I decided to keep the first because it was from the collection of John Quincy Adams. I believe we discussed that when it happened. I only have two JQA coins and do place a bit of extra value on them but am not sure exactly how much. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...ac34jqa.htmlEdited by dougsmit
09/16/2012 4:07 pm
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That said, I also enjoy having old envelopes showing my coin was collected a century ago even if the collector was a nobody like me. Do I pay extra? No, but I might buy a coin if it is a good deal and comes with an old ticket before an equal coin otherwise. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do.../feac16.html |
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sometimes no. Now if you have a eliasberg coin, yes that can effect the value.
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I had to look up Eliasberg. But you can't tell me that if you know your coin was once owned by John Q. Adams it would not raise the vale to some extent.
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Arthur Conan-Doyle and a founding father?! Wow, either one of those would somewhat raise value to me, especially JQA. I think I would avoid something like an Eliasberg coin though; for some reason I have a problem with a collection that complete being broken up and sold in pieces like a junkyard Caddy, even though it is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. Not sure why, unless it is simply avoinding the bad karma of completely undoing something that somebody spent so many years lovingly piecing together. Just seems wrong to me. Thanks for the input all. I think I will stick with my skepticism and label the coin I saw as 'overpriced.'
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part of the collection of Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle That would get my attention too, since I'm a big fan of Sherlock Holmes. From a half-dozen stories involving gems, I knew Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle had an interest there, so I'm not suprised he was a coin collector too. |
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I love his stories too. And I would get a perverse pleasure out of having corrected his misattribution.  |
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I hope in the distant future everyone bids high for the coins of Sir Ancient Noob.
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I guarantee you that if you manage to get knighted, then I'll invest heavily in the "Sir A-noob Coin Collection"!!  |
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I don't own any coins that were owned by famous people but were owned by numismatists.
I have a few ALexandrian Tets. of Probus that I bought from Keith Emmett, Author of "Alexandrian Coins", who in turn bought them from Col. James W. Curtis, Author of "The Tetradrachms of Roman Egypt.". They were provided with the tags and flip used by Emmett and the 2x2s that had been previously used by Curtis.
All this adds very little to their financial value but does provide some provenance.
Martin
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