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1831 Capped Bust Dime - What Do You Think? (Ngc)

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I picked this Capped Bust Dime up prior to the weekend and it's out for delivery. I just wanted to know what your thoughts in comparison to what NGC graded this one at.

Hopefully the images are not too small.

Thanks for your comments!

(sellers cropped images)

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i'll be shocked if they went higher than a VF30/35 but this is NGC and they are super odd at some of the gradings I have seen them assign...

its a nice example
i want to venture a price tag in and around the $175 range give or take a few bucks
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Twinkle, twinkle, little stars...I like the detail in them.

I am not sure what the line is to the right of the date.
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I would say around VF30. Looks like a die crack or a hair next to the date.
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I don't know, it is dark, like a shadow, possible "depth" indication of a cracked planchet.
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the strike on the stars is fantastic, I agree
i am anxious to see the grade on the slab, I am all in at VF35
i know you are only about higher graded coins for your 7070 so I am surprised you did not hunt down a graded 45

but I also know that there are only 168 hours in a week and there is no way you can take on a 5th job to layout $285 for a XF40 so you took the hundred less coin in the 35, that is my final guess
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It looks VF35 to me. An XF40 holder would be no surprise and I wouldn't argue. There looks to be a touch of mint luster peeking out that could earn the XF grade.
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dsfreeworld, you are right on so many levels, but not the grade (according to NGC);

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My guess was going to be VF-35 but it doesn't sound like that was what it was graded.
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Wow, did they give a details grade due to something they think they see...that is what I mean by NGC and their oddball nature...

or it's an XF and that shows you how little I know about grading these regardless of the 15 dates I own...
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I received the coin this afternoon and here are a couple of USB microscope images;

Looks like a scratch (too straight, not following grain boundaries and you can see the bottom) in the field, and a crack on the rim (jagged)
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I did not notice that the upper arrow shaft was incomplete before.
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That old scratch shouldn't have hurt the grade (IMHO).

Check out this JR-1 that sold last year on Teletrade. It has the telltale incomplete upper arrow shaft.

http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....0&lot=1348#n

Your coin is quite nice for the grade. Is there any mint luster showing around the stars? I think it was net-graded 5 points for the scratch or a light cleaning. If there is mint luster present, it may have been net-graded 10 points (and shouldn't have been).

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VF-35, looks to have some minor problems
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Nice bust dimes are hard to locate. Same for the quarter. I feel nice examples deserve their premium.
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Quarters are SO much harder than any of the bust coins, except the very early draped bust cents.
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I think that it is as nice in hand as the images and I am very pleased with this coin;

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Thanks for the comments!
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