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Dating A Egyptian Coin

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 Posted 03/17/2007  3:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sinbad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all

Having done my research on this coin I found that to be a Egyptian Guerche from the year AH 1327, the Krause World book of coins "1979" that I have got has the Mohammedan year dates in then has another date that I do not recognise, is there someone out there that could help me put a Christian date to this coin? the other date in the book is 2D.



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 Posted 03/17/2007  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like an Ottoman Coin. I know Sap, eg_collector, RenaL and many other will be able to help you. I struggle with Arabic and The Asian Launguages my self, and alos the Launguages form India Too.
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 Posted 03/17/2007  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I'm understanding what I'm reading correctly online, there are multiple years for each AH date. i.e. 1327/1 is one year, 1327/2 is another, etc...

I did find one coin that was referenced as AH 1327/3 which was listed as 1909 if that helps. I am still looking though.
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 Posted 03/17/2007  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The year on the coin is 1327 strictly speaking.

It is KM# 306.

It's 1 Qirsh. Value-wise, it's not worth much.


Made in the Muhammad V reign from 1909-1914 AD. The coin's year is 1909 in that this was the year the ruler came to the throne.

The 6H suggests it was the sixth year of his reign. Thus, it's probably from 1914. If you want details on how this dating works, let me know.
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 Posted 03/18/2007  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sinbad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all, the question is how does one know which date this coin is as there seems to be no indication on there to which date it belongs, eg. AH 1327 2H?...3H?....4H?...6H? meaning to say how does one differentiate from date to date?

Thank you all again
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Tights you say that you are reading online? Is there a site that this info is on?

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The year-of-reign part of the date is given above the mint-name on these coins. In this case, the number is "6", making the coin (KM# 306) 1913 AD.

As an aside, these coins were struck in Birmingham (which is why the Krause lists it as being "6H" - giving the lie to the literal translation of the Arabic wording: "Struck in Egypt".
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Hi Sinbad

The coin is 1 Qirsh of the Ottoman Empire (AH1327) km#306 made of copper-nickel.

1ST PIC: the writing says "Struck in Egypt" or in arabic "Doriba fi Misr" the number below the writing is the year when the ruler started to rule which is (1327 AH) (1909 AD), the number above the writing which is 6 indicates what year of reign is.Thus the coins date is (1333 AH)(1914 AD)I know it seems wiered why did I add 5 years and not 6?

there is 11 days difference between both years, the H=354 days while the AD=365 days. So every 33 years there is a complete 1 year difference.

2nd PIC:Is the name of the ruler written in the Ottoman Hand writting (Kofi)of the Arabic language, the number below is the denomination which is 1 and the symbol below it means quirsh.

Regarding the value of the coin as much as I know
F=2, VF=4, XF=8 AND UNC=28 US$

I hope this helps



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 Posted 03/18/2007  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sinbad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you SAP & eg_collector this info will definately help me on a few of my other Egyptian coins
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 Posted 03/18/2007  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Tights you say that you are reading online? Is there a site that this info is on?


Looks like you found your answers. As far as where I found my info, Google, Google, Google. Usually putting in the AH date will yield ebay auctions from some part of the world. Most of the time in the listing it will state the actual AD year....
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