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What Is With The New Nickels?

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 Posted 09/25/2012  11:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add n9jig to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A couple times recently I have noticed that current (2012) Jefferson nickels seem to have a much brighter appearance than they did in the past. They almost appear plated like Canadian coins.

I am talking not of the recut dies that made the designs clearer recently but the actual tone of the metal.

Am I just imagining things?
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 Posted 09/26/2012  06:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am wondering if they may have introduced nitrided hardened dies.
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 Posted 09/26/2012  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be what sel said, but n9, as a cashier, I have a different answer:


They're new.

I see plenty of gritty, grotty, buttnasty new (post-2005) nickels--in fact, most commonly when I see these from the edge I mistake them for War Nickels! On the flip side, I also see lots of nice older nickels. It all depends on the individual nickel, where it's been, and what's happened to it since it left the Mint.

There is also this: the new portrait of Jefferson is not as "rumply" as the old portrait--the fields are larger, even though the portrait is more detailed. The larger fields will refract more light. Think of a diamond that's been cut--the large, flat facets will reflect lots of beautiful light, while a rough, uncut diamond looks dull and soapy. This is also what happens to coins--compare a gently-circulated Ike, for example, with a gently-circulated 1998 quarter. The Ike will look shinier and sharper than the quarter because the lines and fields of the Ike are larger and simpler, thus reflect more light, than the complicated ins and outs of the eagle on the quarter.
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 Posted 09/26/2012  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2012's just seem so much brighter, with more of a token feel than they did in past years. When new the 2011 and earlier nickels just didn't have the same luster, they had more of a dull shine to them...
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 Posted 09/26/2012  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ninamason to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I still say it's because they're new. I haven't noticed anything special about them, and I worked at this job starting in March last year--I certainly saw plenty of 2011s (and 2010s from late in the year) that were brand-new. Could just be me, but . . .
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Im not sure why but the new ones do seem to feel lighter than than the older nickels. Cheaper metal quality maybe?
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hmmmmm, they do seem rather shiny
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Just wait until they start to tarnish. There's a reason my eldest daughter calls them "Zombie Jeffersons". :-)
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They're new and the Mint is always improving their processes.
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Do you think that the mint already changed the composition and did not tell the public about?

Kinda like the WEB Notes of late 80's - mid 90's.
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09/26/2012 3:13 pm
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Anyone weight one? They still weigh 5 grams?


Addendum:
Just hunted up a 2012P out of my pocket change jar....it isn't super shiny but it does weigh spot on 5 grams

Yours a 2012D?
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Same composition since 1866 [except mid-1942 to the end of '45], nothing to see here...yet.
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 Posted 09/26/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Due to the economy being so poor and so many people out of work, the Mint started to hire people. This helps keep them off the unimployment lines. They sit them down, give them a can of auto polish and have them put a shine on all new Nickels one at a time. With election time approaching, the additional people working may sway people to vote a certain way.
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 Posted 10/02/2012  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hope they're not doing spit polish.
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Glad I'm not the only one who hates how cheap the post-'05 nickels look and feel. No relief at all, and what was the purpose of changing the obverse design? (at least they didn't stick with the '05 portrait. yuck!)
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Yeah, without a deeper relief the current nickels look like game tokens rather than coins.

I could see the current obverse looking nice if the relief was as pre-90s deep.
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