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2006-P DDO Help With ID - Can't Find Major Marker Match

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 Posted 10/03/2012  03:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lonz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All... found this while searching full date OBW rolls. At first glance thought it was 003, but alas, it isn't. I searched for about an hour on coppercoins but couldnt find an exact match. Maybe this is an EDS? The biggest marker that I found is the first memorial pillar with a die chip and crack in the second. There are 2 that look KINDA like that on coppercoins, but the other markers do not match.

Please take a gander.... also... if anyone wants to buy one before I put on ebay, please let me know! There were 10 in the roll !!


all the others are in 2X2's and are in better shape - no spots. All are identical to this one otherwise - regarding major die markers - there is another sliver coming from the rim under the FG - similar to the 003 - didn't remember to grab a pic of it though.


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 Posted 10/03/2012  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find. You could PM coop for his input.It's not 003,the zeros are shifted in the opposite direction.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These can be tough to ID! I have 2 or 3 with minor notching on LIBERTY that I just can't seem to match up either. I have the same problem of not being able to find the right markers, possibly due to an earlier die state. I just hold on to them with all my other unidentifiable stuff!

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 Posted 10/03/2012  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lonz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a bunch of examples of the doubled die reverse for this year that I'm keeping in the ID drawer as well. There are a ton for this year but this one seems to be a strong example- especially in the "2" and "0's". The reverse column one is screaming to be a marker. It probably is, I'm just not looking in the right place.

I PM'd Coop with the link. Hopefully he'll stop by to lend his expert opinion. I believe he's dealt with alot of the 2006's both obverse and reverse DD's.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from the images for sure what you have. The glare on the devices make it hard to tell for sure. Bob from coppercoins usually needs a hand on look to see if it is listed or a new die or too minor. Hard to tell from images provided. But an item to see more images of. The images too close make anything look like something. An image showing half or move of LIBERTY would be better with the light diffused. That cuts the glare out of your images. A diffuser can be as simple as a plastic grocery bag between the light source and the scope/glass. You will see how it works after try this. Depending on you light source this can be accomplished.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lonz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the useful info coop - I will get some better images created asap.


.....That darn USB scope is just so easy to use and quick. When I actually photograph anything with my "real" camera it comes out great, but the setup and transfer of the files is where the "lazy" kicks in.

... I'm glad you agree more pictures are warranted - there is definite doubling there.

Ok..lazy talk again... what about a scanner for these types of varieties? Yay or nay?
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from scanner... not much better. Ok.. I'll stop being lazy.


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Sure looks like 007 to me.
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 Posted 10/03/2012  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lonz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maineman750 - that was one of the ones that was extremely close, but the markers didn't match. There are no die scratches near EPU, near the statue, or in the bay next to the statue to the right, but there is that rather large "blob" on the first column. Coppercoins has it listed as MDS...

I would say this could be early EDS and then they polished the blob, bays, EPU and left the crack on column 2.

... if that even seems plausible that something like that could occur?
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 Posted 10/03/2012  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lonz, EDS means early die state, and yes markers could be missing because EDS occurs before MDS or LDS. In fact, markers are helpful, but you don't have to have them to identify a particular variety. Always concentrate on the variety first, markers help confirm, but do not eliminate except in a few cases.
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