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Bad Feeling About These Slabs!

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 Posted 10/04/2012  12:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a problem buying slabs like this, check the PCGS hologram on reverse. PCGS wouldn't slab a coin looking like that I don't believe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26110503237....m1438.l2648
Also check this coin out as well....same problem
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20081832195....m1438.l2648
These slabs set up a red flag for me because they look like they have been messed with somehow. Am I wrong in feeling this way interested in your opinions. Thank You All!
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 Posted 10/04/2012  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
whats the problem with them? PCGS has graded coins that weren't graded correctly, they make mistakes as does NGC.
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 Posted 10/04/2012  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing really seems to jump out with those slabs. If theyre fake theyre the best ones yet.

http://coins.about.com/od/coingradi...Diagnostics/
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 Posted 10/04/2012  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I'm not referring to the coin itself just the PCGS label itself. Looks like it be torn maybe from opening. In other words the labels are torn.
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The 43-D label is a little nasty but it could have just been from a dealer putting a sticker right there. They dont always come off clean
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 Posted 10/04/2012  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look good to me, plus they're not high value coins...
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 Posted 10/04/2012  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pittstate03 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They both have a return policy and 100% high feedback. The easiest way I have found to test for these (at least lower quality repo slabs) is to get them in you hands, hold on to the the top and bottom and twist them a little. If they are fake, I have found that they pop right off.
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 Posted 10/04/2012  01:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The hologram is on the outside of the slab and is easily damaged from the removal of a sticker.
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I really hate when dealers put any stickers on a slab. Pet Peeve, I guess.
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They look fine to me. Slabbed coins get tossed around and handled all the time. Looks like slab "wear".
By the way, I moved this to the TPG Forum ;)
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 Posted 10/04/2012  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The link to the diagnostics for the fake slabs only apply to the first generation Chinese counterfeits. They or into a second or even third generation of fake slabs now and all or almost all of the shown diagnostics have been corrected.
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Dont think anyone would mess with a coin priced at $17. Had a few torn holograms myself. Sellers are putting stickers over top of them and sometimes they are hard to get off.

My opinions only.

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 Posted 10/06/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the comments but I still have problems with buying a slab with a torn label. I have checked all my slabs and every one of em have the holograms or labels inside. So for a hologram to be on the outside it must be an older slab cause I have never seen one. I have 38 PCGS,33 NCG, 1 NAS, 4 ANAC, 1 PNC, 1 PCI, 1 NGCA, 1 ICG, 1 PBC, 1 DTPC, 1 TRU GRADE SERVICE, 2 NPG and 4 SGS slabs. And none have holograms or labels on the outside except for the 4 SGS which have SGS on Top and Bottom of Slab but label inside as well.



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You do realize SGS is a "basement slabber". Some of the others you mentioned, I have never heard of.
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I agree with vermon, Id honestly be more worried about who slabbed a lot of those you listed than the holograms in your link. I dunno why it just hit me the first one could have just been the lighting and camera angle
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 Posted 10/07/2012  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually All the coins are quality coins even the bottom of the barrel SGS slabs...I only buy PCGS and NGC coins now, but I will buy a 3rd party slab if it is a nice coin especially if silver.
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