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Valued Member
Croatia (Locally: Hrvatska)
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Hello, here is list of kings who dont have circulation coins with his portrait: 1. Bahrein: Hamad bin Isa 1999 - 2. Bhutan: Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck 2008 - 3. Cambodia: Norodom Sihamoni 2004 - 4. Lesotho: Letsie III 1996 - 5. Tonga: Tupou VI 2012 - What are they waiting for.  *Japan, Kuwait, Oman, Quatar, Saudi Arabia never have circulation coins with the portrait of the king/emperor. *Malaysia have new king every five year.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't believe any of these countries, including the ones noted with a * have ever been in the practice of putting their kings on their coins.
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Valued Member
Pakistan
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Some muslim countries have a thing against engraving or depicting people in art or sculpture. I'm not sure what about Saudi Arabia, though, since they have a commemorative (non-circulating, I guess) coin featuring one of their previous kings...
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Previous kings from Cambodia and Bhutan have been depicted on circulation coins, but very few from Middle Eastern countries have appeared on one - Egypt, Iraq and Iran being exceptions that spring to mind.
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Pillar of the Community
Thailand
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Some "rulers" enjoy very brief periods in "power". Lesotho being a very good point. The current king of Bhutan does feature on banknotes as does Hamad bin Isa. Tonga is way too recent. Cambodia? Prince (King) Norodom is a nominal figurhead and the actual ruler would much rather feature his portrait on banknotes (coins don't even come into the equation).
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United States
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Quote: I don't believe any of these countries ... have ever been in the practice of putting their kings on their coins. Here's Lesotho, Moshoeshoe II, king of Lesotho from 1966 until his exile in 1990, and from 1995 until his death in 1996.  And here's Tonga, Taufa'ahau Tupou IV, king of Tonga 1965 - 2006 
Edited by svslav 10/05/2012 12:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Interesting, but they generally do not except for a few instances.
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 Australia
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Bahrain: usually does not show the monarch on circulating coins (not since 1968, anyway). I guess they're waiting for a significant event to commemorate.
Bhutan: likewise, most circulating coins no longer show the monarch.
Cambodia: have never shown the monarch on the coins.
Lesotho: Lesotho had a military coup in 1986; in 1990 when king Moshoeshoe II refused to continue to co-operate with the coup leaders, they deposed him. Since then, coins from Lesotho have not depicted the monarch.
Tonga: small-denomination coins don't show the monarch, but large ones still do. As far as I can tell, they simply haven't needed to make coins since they switched from cupronickel to steel in 2002-2005. The previous king, George Tupou V who reigned only briefly (2006-2012), did not see any coinage made with his name on either, though he did make it onto the banknotes.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
United States
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Sorry about posting so late in the game. But I couldn't resist the topic. Plenty of geopolitics involved with why some of these monarchs are not seen on coins.
According to something in Islamic Law, monarchs and other effigies are not to be depicted on coins. Most middle eastern coins don't even depict any kind of animals, also technically not allowed. This hasn't deterred many exceptions over the years, such as the Hashemite kings in Jordan being the very most current. Saudi Arabia and many of the others are more conservative countries than Jordan and are simply following traditional Islamic protocol. The Saudi king does appear on the banknotes, however.
As far as I know, Bhutan has not issued any circulation coins since 1979. And the 1979 issue did not depict a king. Many banknotes of Bhutan currently do depict the current monarch though.
Japan never has depicted emperors on currency.
Malaysian Sultans do occasionally appear on coins, including a commemorative ringgit or two that have made it into general circulation.
Cambodia has also never issued circulating coins with a head of state.
Kind Tupou V stepped down as he felt he wasn't up to task for the job. His brief reign was botched and saw corruption charges and riots. Coins actually have been issued in Tonga during his rein, during 2011 and 2012 but all depict the previous monarch rather than the Fifth. Tonga intends to actually issue a new re-sized coin series sometime this year (2013) following Fiji, and it is supposed to depict the new king.
Lesotho no longer depicts monarchs on coins, there was a coup as Sap mentioned. (actually a coup, a counter coup, then a revolution) Instability also means unpredictability, "someone new could be in charge tomorrow" was the theme of 1990's Lesotho and was probably the original reason for the change.
Coins, and the equipment to produce them, as well as shipping and distributing them... all very expensive. More so than banknotes. The less about them that has to be changed, the better. Smaller countries with less money to kick around have less interest in small details that can cost big, such as coins, so if you can get away with it, why not just order re-strikes with older equipment? Just change the part of the coin die where the date is rather than the whole thing. And mints that produce coins for many foreign countries have gotten very good at overdating. It saves the mint as well as the customer time and money. The only noticeable thing might be very slightly different sizing or lopsidedness on some of the numbers.
And a botched king may not be quite as intent on getting his picture out there as a more successful one. Just a thought.
I'm not very sure about NCLT, but some of these figures might be found on some of these.
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New Member
United States
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Japan has a special dating system based on whoever is on the throne. For instance, <Heisei 25 = (2013) 25th year of the reign of Akihito.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Actually, there were a series of bronze and silver coins depicting the Cambodian king in the 1860s - but I don't think any have since then.
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