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 Posted 10/08/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a problem with authenticity. They seem very genuine to me now, congrats. If you paid 3000 a piece, I think you would have done well. Congrats, don't worry it is no disrespect to the seller to show the numbers. If he didn't want you to know the certification, walk away. Its a lot of money and you should have the upmost confidence when buying such items.
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 Posted 10/08/2012  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's asking for a combined $9000, so I'd offer 75% of that

=> try offering $6750 combined for both coins


.... ummmm, but only if you have $6750 lying around to spend on coins!!
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 Posted 10/08/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The slab looks genuine so I believe the coins are 100% genuine also. I'm with stevex6 on what you should offer to pay. Hope you can make a deal.
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 Posted 10/08/2012  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like how the coins look--good luck with your offer!

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 Posted 10/08/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let us know how it goes!
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 Posted 10/10/2012  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xw2055606 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carthage, he gave me the price is 3200 dollars. I do not know the price is expensive? Thank you
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 Posted 10/10/2012  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well me being partial to Carthage and a piece of this level, XW..I think you did very well! Congratulations, I someday hope to own one of these coins my self.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I share the concern that these may not be genuine.

There are a great number of extremely good fakes out there.
Have a look at the websites that deal with these coins, and you shall see from pictures presented that ancient Greek gold can be hard to pick from pictures alone. You have to read the assessment of authenticity that explains why the coin is a fake.
I have seen a few extremely good fakes of Greek gold staters presented for auction, that are described as fakes. In each case, I have spoken to the describer of the auction, to explain to me exactly they ARE fakes. I have have had some personal advantage in this regard, but by no means have I attained sufficient expertise myself to express that commercially.

If you wish to buy a Greek gold stater, you need this type of 'hands on' person to person education. I you can't get this type of education, you have to trust the seller. If you can't fully trust the seller, don't buy.

The only real alternative to buy high value ancient Greek and Roman gold is to buy from a dealer with an unquestioned and established international reputation, who will happily buy back if you are not happy.

As far as the pictures presented here are concerned, I do not see anything that suggests that may be fake. However, if I were to buy them, I would need more than just good pictures on a computer screen before I were to proceed.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Originally, he was asking for $3657 for the Carthage piece ... I suggested that you offer 75% of his asking price, which would have been approximately $2750 ... but you paid $3200 (which is 88% of his original asking price) ... dude, you strayed from our flawless strategy!!?



=> oh well, at least you knocked-off $457 bucks ...

Ummm, did you end-up buying the 2nd coin as well?

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 Posted 10/10/2012  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xw2055606 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI
I do not know is not original. 3200 dollars is the price he gave me. I still continue to discuss prices and dealers.

In your opinion, he is the original? Thank you. If it is the original. I will continue to discuss the price.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the coin is original and you would do well at $3200.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea if they are genuine or fake, but, if it were my money, I would only spend that kind of money with an ironclad money back guarantee of authenticity. If the seller refuses a money back guarantee that might tell you something, and without that, I would pass and buy from a reputable dealer.
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 Posted 10/10/2012  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The price for ancients of this caliber should include a permanent satisfaction guarantee. Even if these look real, a dealer of good standing should buy back any coin discovered to be fake. I don't know if a private seller could make that guarantee--or if you can negotiate a lower price for this risk? Every culture looks at negotiations and bargaining a little differently--so all I can offer is my opinion and best of luck!
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