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 Posted 10/08/2012  9:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add star-notes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Pulled off the highway to stop for dinner and got this in my change.

1977 I 16918516A



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 Posted 10/08/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YoungNumismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really collect U.S. paper money, so can you fill me in on the importance this find. Thank you.
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 Posted 10/08/2012  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
... I note that the end two digits repeat ... but what are you seeing here that makes this special.

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 Posted 10/08/2012  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find if you plan on saving it, but it won't have much value as an investment.
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 Posted 10/08/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
me too
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 Posted 10/08/2012  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a small portrait note, for those of you who are asking what it is.
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 Posted 10/08/2012  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beside obvious small portrait note! What's the significant serial# to this note OP specifically noted the serial#
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 Posted 10/08/2012  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
macmercury:

It is a bookend note. The same sequence of digits(16 in this case) is found both at the beginning and at the end of the serial number. I don't think it adds value to the note, in this case at least.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I though bookend note required at least first and last 3 digits to match

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 Posted 10/09/2012  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jlgaudlitz95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's pretty hard to find such old notes in such good condition in circulation. Last month I found a 1974 $1 FRN. Not really valuable, but a neat finds.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure, but bookends are referred to as two different things:

The first being what I have just mentioned, and all the sources I found do not disregard a sequence of 2 digits repeating itself as a bookend note. But if it were up to me, I wouldn't consider these serial numbers fancy unless they have a sequence of 4 digits repeats itself which I believe makes it a repeater.

The second which are also considered bookends is when you have a set of three consecutive notes, the middle one being a radar(or an error note according to one source I found) and the two others being "shoulder notes" or "bookends". An example being :

25466451 (bookend)
25466452 (radar)
25466453 (bookend)
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 Posted 10/09/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JobIII to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've actually never heard of bookends being the notes that come before and after a radar note. That's new to me.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are bookends notes, labeled so by the PCGS. I have taken the image from Clay Irving's glossary:

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He refers to the middle note as a "specific note", in his example it happens to be an error note. Another case was discussed involving a radar note here:

http://www.cdnpapermoney.com/forum/...topic=3602.0
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 Posted 10/09/2012  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that instance bookend refers to something different. A bookend serial number has the same starting number as ending number and there is no requirement on the number of digits. To me a bookend serial doesn't add much to the note. That bookend set just means an error with notes before and after.

*edit to clarify.
If a serial has a number like 16000016 then I would say that the term bookend is more relevant that a serial like 16918516.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty nice condition for such an old note.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ckrakowski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a bookend note is where the first and last letter of the serial number match. anyone who tells you different is wrong and they need to learn the correct terms. just because pcgs said those are bookends just means they made a mistake.
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