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A Die Clash On A Collector Coin

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 Posted 10/12/2012  2:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone
Something pretty interesting has come up recently, it would appear that some silver coins "farewell to the penny" 20$ for 20$ of the mint have a die clash. I'd love to say I was the one who found out, but I wasn't. Still, I figured this was interesting enough to post.
http://numicanada.com/forum/viewtop...f=12&t=16518
You can see pictures on this topic, it's pretty clear it's a clash. I've found 2 myself, I'll try to post pictures of my own later on. After a pretty limited survey, we have found 9 out of 59, odds are many of you have it. I'd like if you guys could contribute to increase the sample and have a better idea of the occurence of that mistake. Another interesting fact, the clash can be on 1 side or both, haven't broken down the stats in regard to that.
Looking forward to your input, and hope some of you can find it!
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 Posted 10/12/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is interesting to see that more than one kind has been noticed. The one I have matches the first the double die clash in Numicanada forum. I don't read french But I get the jist of it. There is a second clash above the left water ring above the date(2012).
I have actually seen them strike collector coins one at a time and can not believe they could not catch that one. Not once , not twice but how many times?
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 Posted 10/13/2012  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you provide some pics, I'd love to see a good example.
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 Posted 10/14/2012  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, there are pictures in the link I posted, but here are some pictures of my own.

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So on the pictures, you can see a clash mark of the queen's back neck and hair under the left part of the right leaf, it goes through a water ripple. The second visible mark is from the queen's chin and neck, under the left leaf's first water ripple. Then, on the other side are the corresponding marks as well, the leaf's twig and water ripple forming a cross behind the queen's neck, and a vertical line under her chin coming from a water ripple, I didn't put a picture because I can't get one where you see it, the mark is a little faint.

So, I'd like to know how many of you have this die clash, and if it's only one sided, or on both sides.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add castor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 10/17/2012  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Castor, it makes it much easier to picture the areas of clash. A picture is worth a thousand words :)
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 Posted 11/04/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I'm at 12 out of 84, so 14% of coins have the mistake so far,but again, the sample is rather small to get any idea out of it.
I believe this data gathering is less flawed and more accurate than one done on older coins, since those coins will tend to change hands less often, and the clashes most likely haven't been picked out so much, because the coin is sold wrapped, and this error has been known for a short period. I'm still interested in knowing about your coins, if they have the clash or not, and if it's on one or both sides.
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 Posted 11/04/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
after checking my 3 coins. They don't have this issue.
The error coins may be worth some extra value. Who knows. :)
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 Posted 11/04/2012  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just checked my 6 and 1 has a clash.... lucky I came across this post because it was one of the ones I listed on ebay.
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 Posted 11/04/2012  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just checked the 6 I have and :( no die clash.
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 Posted 11/04/2012  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Makes the new Total 13/96
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 Posted 11/04/2012  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That'd be 13/99 counting Bibo's 3 coins as well. 1 out of every 7-8 coins.
@gbvbsite: does your coin have marks on obverse as well as reverse?
@Bibo: Yes, I'd say it carries a premium, since theses coins are all the same except a few with the clash.
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 Posted 11/04/2012  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mine just has the clash on the maple leaf and in the pond... nothing on the queen side
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 Posted 11/04/2012  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EOCanuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no die clash on my two
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 Posted 11/05/2012  11:10 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another factor to consider are the distribution centres. mysterious_dr_x, how many did you find that were sold by Canada Post?
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 Posted 11/05/2012  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None on mine either....
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