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OK I have had this since I was a kid 35+ years and I now know it is not the real deal for sure  . That being said, I have looked at some pictures of both the replicas and the real ones. My piece has the 1cLM which means it is not real per se but what I have read is that some of the copies could be worth a little. Some of them were done in the 1800's maybe? I do not want to sell it, I just want to know exactly what I have. So here is a link to the real one: http://www.masshist.org/database/vi...d=593&pid=15Here is a link to what I think I have: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/FAQ...inetree.htmlAnd I even have a link to an interesting video of Pawn Stars addressing one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqDCZZEjrEAfter looking real hard, I think I have the replica but mine has differing details somewhat. I know that some on here are experts and know much more information about them. Take at look at mine and tell me what you think..   |
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Yours appears to be made before the coin protection act whereby "copy" had to be put on all non-genuine collectible coins. When it was made exactly is unknown but it does appear to be made of copper...maybe, instead of the flimsy brittle pot metal used today.
The second link from Notre Dame's Colonial archives is most likely what you have.
I'm unsure of an exact value. Cool keepsake though :)
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Indeed. You have a common replica.
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Bummer, I was hoping it was one of the early reproductions..
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Its cast - maybe $20 since its pre-copy era - and I also don't believe the Appleton piece is legitimate. Probably no more than a hyped up 18thC fake or whimsy piece that is pedigreed back to some major collectors. Today we believe all Machins were struck in Newburg, NY, the 1717 Rosa Patterns belong to that series rather than being British patterns made of bath metal and then this hyped up questionable piece. Everything in the Red Book must be the TRUTH <BG>. John Lorenzo United States |
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Check the Newton Papers ... William Wood did submit patterns for approval in and around 1717/1718 for British Coinage. But we have no records of images or metal alloy of these pieces. Since the pieces were made of bath metal they were linked to the Rosa Americana series by default. Hanoverian legends on U.S. Colonial issued coins? But since they were always bringing four figures in the old days at auction of colonial collecting the process continued to today. Since the British did not want them the American collector inherited them (1717 Rosa Americana Patterns). There were no records to substantiate that N.H. ever issued a coinage ... just proposals. Machins - no comment. A Machin is a Machin <BG>. We can discuss the 1717/1718 Texas Jollas - later <BG>. JPL |
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The Red Book's Colonial & Early American sections make for a good laugh, indeed. |
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I'd like to know which Colonial expert(s) contributed to the Red Book...it is quite the joke. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Great Info! $20 Wow!
This indeed is a good piece to have in the collection....for the history alone..
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I'd like to see the pictures you posted with your first question. I'm currently studying these coins, following up on a theory. I don't know if it's my computer, or whether your pictures expired due to the length of time. Could you either repost your pictures here, or email me directly with them? Thanks
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I believe it might be a replica, as the originals are not common at all. "COPY" was not forced to be stamped on replicas until the early 1970s, or so I believe, so since you've had it for almost forty years, it equals out.
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found a replica of the 1776 Massachusetts Pine Tree Copper Coin some years back. Image Below.
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Posted 10/14/2012 01:24 am
